Would JMM have beaten the 140 lb and up guys Manny beat

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  1. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    This just silly. For the same reason Floyd shut him out, all of these guys beat JMM. And I love Marquez, one of my favourite fighters.

    He would have a chance against that version of Hatton because he was pretty much ruined and had abandoned the scant defence he employed until he beat Tyszu. They aren't that different in size, except that Hatton carries more weight.

    But basically, Marquez has a style that give Pac problems because he's one-dimensional. He may be excellent at it, and Roach has added some nice wrinkles to his game, but he's a slugger at heart. When he can't get off as he'd like he gets frustrated and drops his right hand, hoping to draw a lead. Marquez is a superb technician and timed the right instead then stepped to the side to stop Pac from setting his feet.

    Cotto and Mosley are more versatile than Pac (though not as good at this stage of their careers), so wouldn't get frustrated the same way. Plus, I don't think Marquez has the power to hurt either man.
     
  2. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hatton was totally shot when he fought manny
     
  3. agila2004a

    agila2004a Well-Known Member Full Member

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    many keep saying that jmm is the smaller guy, but look at the pics and vids from pac/mm I to III. tell me who is the bigger guy. jmm just overstayed at the lower weight divisions opting to dehydrate and rehydrate at fight night.
     
  4. Brauer

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    :good Thanks for posting yet another ******ed comment.
     
  5. Phat_Ass_Dude

    Phat_Ass_Dude Well-Known Member Full Member

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    With EASE....And looked good in doing so.
     
  6. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    Pac won against the big welters because of his speed and power and style of fighting while marquez is a counterpuncher who waits for his opponents to open up and these big welters will just walk on through his countes. i think all guys will beat juan except hatton.
     
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    agila2004a Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good
    but, with hatton jmm must maintain his distance and avoid infighting like what happened to floyd/hatton fight.
     
  8. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Watching Sonsona vs. Diale in a stream a mexican stream now!!!!

    Nice figtht.
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He'd beat the version of De La Hoya that Pacquiao fought. Same with Hatton. A prime for prime match up of Marquez & Hatton is an intresting match up. He beats Cotto, Clottey and Margrito. I think the version of Mosley that Pacquiao fought gives Marquez problems.
     
  10. EnterTheDragon

    EnterTheDragon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bogo,

    Are you saying that Pac wouldn't absolutely blitz, destroy, and maim Diaz, Casamayor, and Katsidis?
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    No because that has nothing to do with the discussion?
     
  12. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    you my friend dont know **** about baaxing.
     
  13. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    Marquez could beat that version of dela Hoya, but other than dlh: cotto, margo, mosley, clottey would beat jmm.

    marquez just gives pac nightmares becasue marquez' style is much difficult for pac to handle vice versa.
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    so can you actually explain how he can beat guys like clottey, margarito and cotto with ease when pac has to fight different set of strategies for each one of them and pac did not beat them with relative ease?
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Yes definitely. It's laughable to compare those guys to Jmms skill level. Hes clearly on the highest level so its not just a matter of styles but a matter of greatness. None of those fighters Manny fought are even close to Floyds level so it wasnt just Floyds size but his skills which are unmatched in this era at least. Jmm is a great counterpuncher Floyd is a great counterpuncher with great defensive skills and speed.