Decline of 'The Ring' under Golden Boy

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  1. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm 30 years old, and have religiously bought 'The Ring' magazine for 15 years. Over that time i've always found that it supplied the most intelligent, original, well written journalism that could possibly be found on boxing. Under Steve Farhood and then Nigel Collins it was superb, well edited and featured great writers like Thomas Hauser, Ivan Goldman and William Dettloff.
    After Golden Boy took over, at first nothing changed, the magazine maintained it's standards in journalism, and everything seemed like business as usual, no problem!
    Even when i heard that Golden Boy had sacked Nigel Collins and Joe Santoliquito, and moved their long established New York offices to California to be nearer GB headquarters, i decided to not come to any conclusions, negative or positive, until i read the first edition under the new editors.
    Oh dear! The ultra professional JOURNALISTS Collins and Santoliquito have been replaced by an internet blogger called Dougie Fischer and Micheal Rosenthal. Long time visitors to the magazines website will know that Fischers writing is grammatically very questionable, seemingly rushed, and rarely proof read. This man is now the associate editor of the most esteemed magazine in boxing!
    The quality writing of Ivan Goldman and William Dettlof was gone, replaced by 3 pages on a ringcard girl and a page full of fans posing with fighters. Instead of 'The Ring' titleholder clearly being defined as champion in the ratings, Rosenthal and Fischer just imposed the letter 'C' next to his name. Extracts from books on Jerry Quarry and Ray Leonard replaced original writing. To me putting these two in control of a magazine like 'The Ring' is akin to letting a learner driver take charge of a Ferrari, eventually it will end in disaster.
    What do Eastside readers think? I'll buy the magazine again next month because i've grown to love it, but i don't hold out much hope and fear i'll soon be keeping my money in my pocket.
     
  2. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good post.My friend commited suicide in 2009 and his mum gave me alot of his old Ring editions just this year.It just doesn't have the same quality it had in the nineties especially.Impacted has covered it much more compehensively than I could but he's spot on.
    Boxing News however is improving all the time.
    I very rarely buy Ring nowadays.
     
  3. No10Point

    No10Point Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A boxing promoter owning the boxing magazine...
    I called this from the get go. Biased and censored is what it has become. Why would you openly degrade your won stock? (IE fighters) while upgrading your competitions?

    Its like fighter contracts with TV channels.
    Shouldn't be allowed because the channel looses money if their fighter doesn't win.
     
  4. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fisher is hard to read in blog form, I can't imagine him being a serious writer.

    I stopped buying the magazine after the staff got fired. They might as well close down the magazine, it's outdated media.
     
  5. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Same here. called it at the start and was shouted down "fishnets would never do that, he's only buying it to preserve its history and so it doesn't go bankrupt"

    It's just a golden boy promotional tool these days. Shame.

    Perfect example is their god dam rankings: the first one which springs to my mind was when hatton (a GBP fighter) was coming off the mayweather loss and dragged the hispanic causing panic out of retirement for his homecoming, basically handpicked a career lightweight who had never won a fight at 140 (won a couple of bouts at 142/143) yet the ring suddenly put lazcano in the top 10 rankings at 140 (8 or 9 from memory) as soon as he's announced as hattons oppo.:-(
     
  6. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They got rid of Joe and Nigel!?!? ****! That's horrible.

    Fisher is such a piece of ****. Hes a homer for anything so-cal and he openly admits it. He was the leading mouthpiece for Arum's Margarito train, and won't admit his mistake.
     
  7. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They gave Doug Fischer a magazine article to write? I can't imagine him getting the full extent of his hatred of Mayweather out onto print form.
     
  8. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I stopped buying it a couple of months ago when they completely changed all the writers because if you do that it's effectively not the same magazine. It was a bizarre move. Fischer and Rosenthal are awful. I have started buying Boxing Monthly instead which is actually pretty good.
     
  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Internet killed the Ring Magazine.
     
  10. Joe_MacKenzie

    Joe_MacKenzie Boxing Addict banned

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    There are some very poor writers at The Ring, such as Eric Raskin, Michael Rosenthal and William Dettloff.

    Doug Fischer is okay though.
     
  11. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Michael Rosenthal is awful he can't ****ing spell and lem statterfield is a gossip man nothing more the mag will be gone in a year
     
  12. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Raskin and Dettloff are good writers and both were fired by oscar Raskin now writes for grantland
     
  13. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nah oscar did
     
  14. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry Joe, Dettloff has written a very good book with Joe Frazier called 'Box like the pros', and is currently penning a biography on Ezzard Charles. Doug Fischer can barely construct a paragraph.