Question about Andre Dirrell

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Many people claim Dirrell faked an injury to get out of the Ward figtht, a move that makes zero sense. Anyway, if he faked the injury, how come he's been out of the ring two years, and how come his first fight back is on Showtime? Surely, if he faked the injury then he wouldn't have been able to produce proper medical documentation to Showtime. If that's the case, why would they let him back on the network coming off that layoff, and without reestablishing himself?
     
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    I honestly don't think he faked injury, I believe he may have suffered a mild concussion, AA hit him while he was down but I've seen harder punches, if that did have such a huge effect on Andre he and his team should evaluate his ability to take a punch...

    From the way he fights you can definitely tell he hates getting hit, I don't think a two year layoff was necessary maybe it was something else, I do kind of feel he didn't want to face his homie at that point either, Ward and Dirrell will continue to avoid fight, unless Ward remains champ and Dirrell fights his way up to being Wards Mandatory....
     
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    If you don't believe his injury was enough to force him out of the tournament, then that's pretty much the same as him faking it. Why would he drop out of the Ward fight if he didn't have to? What would he have to gain? It's not like he was a top draw in the sport. That fight was his chance for stardom and lots of money.
     
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    No i said he probably did suffer a concussion that required time off, I just don't think it took two years to get over the injury, he could realistically taken 7 or 8 months off just postpone the Ward fight and come back but it seems he got bad business advice, he should have a could have fought ward imo...
     
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    Again, you're saying he dropped out of the Ward fight when he didn't have to. What would be the advantage of doing so as compared to going through with the fight? Why is he back on Showtime?
     
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    I think a 2nd loss would have been very detrimental to him. I'm not sure that he pulled out of the Ward fight without cause, but I suspect it. I couldn't answer as to why he'd be on Showtime again, or wouldn't be.

    I definitely do not think he was faking vs Abraham.
     
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    What's more detrimental, losing to Ward(a guy who would be favored to beat him), getting paid, and continuing to get paid to fight on Showtime, or not even fighting Ward, not getting paid, and sitting around for almost two years without getting paid?
     
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    People were just looking for a way to **** on Dirrell, because he beat AA and Froch.
     
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    he's out of the ring because he aint got a fighters heart, he doesn't want to fight.
     
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    Yea basically I am, but i do think he may have needed time off from the illegal punch against AA, two years to come back from a concussion, I mean seriously what other injury could it have been, Dirrell doesn't have a warriors heart and I think if his advisors or family told him he should take more tome off he would even if he felt he could fight...

    This big of an opportunity and you just throw it all away, cause you took one punch to the head when you're getting punch continuously anyway, I doubt he was too hurt to take that much time he could have postponed for a few months and came right back in my opinion, why he's still on showtime is irrelevant, its not like they can prove he could fight...
     
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    Yea basically I am, but i do think he may have needed time off from the illegal punch against AA, two years to come back from a concussion, I mean seriously what other injury could it have been, Dirrell doesn't have a warriors heart and I think if his advisors or family told him he should take more tome off he would even if he felt he could fight...

    This big of an opportunity and you just throw it all away, cause you took one punch to the head when you're getting punch continuously anyway, I doubt he was too hurt to take that much time he could have postponed for a few months and came right back in my opinion, why he's still on showtime is irrelevant, its not like they can prove he could fight...
     
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    The 2 points aren't mutually exclusive. If he has a contract, he may still be getting his paydays going forward. I really don't know. Maybe he's looking at a Bute fight, or was playing the odds that something else might come his way that might not be there if he takes the loss off Ward and gets KO'd from the tourney.

    But, as I said, I don't know if he did bail on the fight without cause. He may have genuinely been suffering the effects of the AA shot. And I must admit, I didn't really pay much attention once it was announced the fight with Ward was off. I only cared about seeing the fight. The rest of the crap doesn't mean much to me.

    All I'm saying is that the politics/dealings of the business of boxing are such that nothing surprises me.
     
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    it's very much relevant. I doubt they would let him back on the network if he dropped out of the tournament without proper medical evidence that he wasn't cleared to fight. I think you're real problem is that you don't seem to understand how serious a concussion can be. Go look up Sidney Crosby and ****** Morneau. Crosby took one shot to the head and missed an entire calendar year. He came back for a few games, and is now out indefinitely again. Morneau was out something like 18 months after taking a knee to the head and getting concussed. All concussions are not the same. They can keep you out of action for a long time.
     
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