'Smokin' Joe Frazier (March 8, 1971) vs. 'The Brown Bomber' Joe Louis (Sept 24, 1935)

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    One thing that Louis punished verry serverely was taking a step forward.

    I think that Fraziers whirlwind attack would give Louis enough rope to hang him.
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    You dont even have a clue about Louis do you?

    Not even how his basic style worked.
     
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  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks! Frazier seems to get little credit anymore, in many cases is left out of top 10 and sometimes top 15 rankings...in H2H he seems to get little respect...Although in regards to Tyson (and Holy) I seem to remember a similar poll on both and opinion seemed divided, rather than a heavy dose of one or the other...peace!
     
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  4. JIm Broughton

    JIm Broughton Active Member Full Member

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    I say it's Louis early or Frazier late. If Louis can catch Frazier before he gets warmed up and in his rythym then he could hurt Frazier, drop him a few times and TKO Smokin' Joe. If he chooses to try to feel out Frazier for the first few rounds then he's asking for trouble. Frazier would make Louis fight at a much faster pace than he is accustomed to and Louis could'nt dance away from danger like Ali could. In a war of attrition it's hard to bet against Frazier, at least the Frazier from the late 60's and early 70's which is why I feel Louis' best chance would be to jump on Frazier from the opening bell ala the second schmeling fight and not let Smoke warmup. Drop him,cut him and let the ref call a halt to it early. If he does'nt I see Frazier doing it to Joe around the 8th or 9th.
     
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  5. werety

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    This is a horrible matchup for Frazier, Louis within 6.
     
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  6. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali is in much worse shape than Joe,who really took the most damage? Ali
     
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  7. SteveO

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    Did Louis ever fight a swarmer like Frazier?
     
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  8. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He fought Marciano when he was an old man - he got stopped in a pretty brutal fashion.

    What Uncle Sam did to Joe Louis is one of boxing's tragedies. Louis was a great champ and a good guy as well.
     
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  9. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Correct. But in the short term it was Frazier who suffered more. Frazier was hospitalized with dehydration and just generally a wreck after that fight. Ali is worse today but he also fought a lot more than Frazier and logged many more rounds against better fighters than Frazier faced.
     
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  10. fists of fury

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  11. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

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    Let's see, you are calling the man clueless because he likes Frazier to take out Louis in 6, right?

    I like Smokin' Joe in 5. What do I get called? :bbb
     
    yancey, Jan 30, 2008
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  12. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Frazier´s pressure style would play into Louis fast and heavy combinations, IMO Louis would brutally KO Joe in the middlerounds...
     
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  13. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    My sentiments exactly. Louis KO 6.
     
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  14. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
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  15. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Louis TKO11.
     
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