Richie Woodhall's key to victory tactics.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Pad-Man, Dec 18, 2011.


  1. Pad-Man

    Pad-Man ***Team England*** Full Member

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    No matter the fighter, no matter the style, no matter the weight, the advice always stay's the same "he's gotta work off the jab".

    Anybody else noticed he always say's that along with "he's gotta get the jab going and stem the opponents movement".

    Just a thought, still love the guy and hie insights are spot on.
     
  2. dannylatics

    dannylatics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haha funny enough I was telling the same thing to my mate last night. Same tactics everytime
     
  3. J W Pepper

    J W Pepper Member Full Member

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    When in doubt, stick the left hand out!
     
  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Ex-top "text book" amateur.
     
  5. Pad-Man

    Pad-Man ***Team England*** Full Member

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    I know jab is the most important punch in boxing because it set's up your work and enables you to find range and keep your opponent moving and off balance.

    But it won't win you a fight yet the same ''stick behind the jab'' mentality is spouted.

    I'd say Carl Froch's biggest problem last night was the jab, it was so slow that Ward would time him and left the left hook or counter right hand. The best tactics for Carl to follow last night would have been to blow the body out of Ward to slow him down and go for a late stoppage once he is hurt and slowing down. Well at least aim for that anyway. The ''stick behind the jab'' is a fail-safe line that he favours saying like Nelson's ''the win will go to whoever want's it more''.
     
  6. Pad-Man

    Pad-Man ***Team England*** Full Member

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    That is the reason I believe he uses this tactic. He had an amateur style of high held guard and long jab.

    Khan has the same style but moves a lot more.

    The jab is an important punch but it is not a tactic. You must have something else to follow on from the jab and last night Carl failed by using his jab and might have had a closer fight had he neglected the jab and just bullied his way in and gone to the body. My point is just that Woodhall always uses the ''stick behind the jab'' line.
     
  7. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Froch just didn't have the physical gifts needed to make the jab work. As soon as Ward opted to go on the inside it was effectively over, because it became clear that Ward was the stronger man.
     
  8. It's unusual to see a former standout amateur from the modern era that can actually fight on the inside.

    Ward has probably become as good as he has because he's not had the silver spoon treatment that so many others get, such as British lads.

    For a kid with 25 fights his record is excellent. He's dominated Kessler, Abraham and Froch in very impressive fashion, you get the feeling the best is yet to come from him too.

    The fight went more or less as I expected, with Froch having more of his success on the outside/at mid range, and Ward dominating him in close. A couple of the cards were a bit off, 9-3 was about right for me.
     
  9. dannylatics

    dannylatics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No version of Froch could trouble Ward really. Just far to slow and Ward is a far better boxer. He had a punchers chance but tbh thats about it

    im still a fan though, absolute warrior
     
  10. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Richie is textbook as Gaz said, he's been born and brought up on 'work everything off jab'.
     
  11. royalt0208

    royalt0208 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know I think Ward wasn't battle hardened in the way say Carl Froch was going into the Super 6. But for me that's what makes Wards form so impressive, going into the Super 6 he was taking a massive step up and he had only really faced one notable opponent and that was Edison Miranda. Otherwise he had faced a pretty low level of opposition and although I wasn't following his career before the Miranda fight from reading reports from some of those fights he did not sound all that impressive.

    I haven't seen much talk of this (admittedly I have only just logged into ESB so missed out on the RbR) but for me one of the keys to his victory yesterday was his footwork. I couldn't help but be extremely impressed by the way Ward always had Froch unbalanced and completely nullified anything Froch had to offer by controlling the range beautifully.
     
  12. nicofly

    nicofly Caretaker Full Member

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    Richie Woodhalls a tosser. Used to respect him but he talks shite and is bitter about Max Maxwell not getting shot at the British title. Max Maxwell got starched in one in an eliminator then had the bare arsed cheek to moan about it on ringside about how his lad should have got a shot at Prince Arron.

    Faux Pas Monsieur Woodhall..... :nono
     
  13. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't get starched in one, he lost due to a farcical call by the ref.
     
  14. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    I must admit i have lost respect for Woodhall, his nuthugging of Smith in the Simpson rematch was **** poor IMO. He couldn't crawl any further up Khan's arse either last week on ringside.
     
  15. Pad-Man

    Pad-Man ***Team England*** Full Member

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    Smith would of won properly had he "stuck behind the jab". Spot on about the bias to Smith, probs cos of the Amatuer training days.