So what was Froch training for?

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  1. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Bit bizarre that Froch said he could beat Ward, but he'd need to go away and work on some technical stuff such as how to move and punch on the inside.

    Considering Ward has roughed most opponents up and beat them up on the inside, what the hell was Froch preparing for and how was he preparing? :nut

    Terrible preparation from Froch and his trainer if it's only now that they've realised they should have been doing inside work.
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Just not good enough mate.
     
  3. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Indeed.

    He could have a 52 week training camp working on the inside and still never beat Ward, but it's bad to hear a fighter saying that he basically didn't do much work in training to make himself competitive on the inside against a fighter who beats people on the inside.
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    This isn't the first fight that should have made Froch evolve as a fighter. I doubt he will. He is so delusional, it is insane. On top of that his coach is a yes man not willing to tell him he looks ridiculous doing what he is.

    I would love to see him get with Steward just to work on the jab, right hand, how to hold his hands, balance and footwork. If he just had that alone then with his height, reach, power and other qualities he would be a much more formidable fighter.
     
  5. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Spot on.

    What was it that guy said in another thread, Gaz?

    Something along the lines of, if Froch has improved on his speed, defence and skills he should win this fight. lol

    Didn't realise those things where so easy to improve in a few weeks, when you're 34 years old. :lol:
     
  6. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Froch just can't seem to execute things he and his trainer want him to do. It's not his fault, he's just physically incapable.
     
  7. combo slice

    combo slice Member Full Member

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    what was that rubbish he was saying just after the fight..something like ward was slippery like an eel on the inside...kept moving his head from side to side.."thats not how I like to fight"...seemed like he was saying ward should of kept his head still and let froch hit him..like a real man! lol
     
  8. Jetset78

    Jetset78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with this.

    Ward didn't bring anything new to the fight. Froch should have been well prepared but he simply fought how he always does.

    Did he just focus on conditioning? Surely he (or Rob) must have known that Ward's style would be tricky. Plus, where was plan B & C?
     
  9. hitandhope

    hitandhope Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch doesn't listen. I've seen McCracken begging Froch to follow the game plan in-between rounds in various fights. Don't think Froch could have changed the result last night but he could have done a lot better.
     
  10. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I think he did as well as anyone could expect. Froch is a brave, tough guy who has beaten some opponents through sheer will. But he just isn't fast enough of hand or foot to beat someone like Ward even with the Greatest Gameplan of All Time.
     
  11. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    That certainly isn't the case.

    Ward has put thousands of days in at the gym working on his tools. There are clear differences in his style from when he first turned pro to now. Honestly, other than his stamina improving, I can't say anything has really changed for Carl.

    Carl is more then capable of keeping his hands in position to defend and fire of good punches BUT he hasn't put the hours in at the gym. He has from a fitness perspective but not from a technical perspective.
     
  12. Briggs

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    I thought he was classy in his interview. He was just explaining what he felt was the reason for the defeat. He admitted that Ward fought within the rules, and won the fight fair and sqaure.

    It's fair to say that Ward is ugly on the inside, if very effective.
     
  13. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Froch still doesn't punch properly. He's got heavy hands and with proper technique he'd be an excellent puncher, but his awkwardness makes it hard for him to get leverage.
     
  14. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Froch has openly admitted to not listening to Rob which has always made me question if the relationship between the pair is to pally pally to be good. I feel bad for Rob at times he begs Carl rather then demands things from him. I think he knows Carl can do better but has this warrior mentality that holds him back. Carl has done well i mean his career could of been over when he had a year out for ACL knee injury.

    TBH i ain't complaining both men have been fantastic for British boxing over last few years and produced many great nights. Remember when Froch beat Pascal on day McCracken's mother passed away and dedicated it to his mum. That was class and brought a tear to eye. I will always be a Froch fan but with that comes a lot of frustration with his mentality.
     
  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I think they expected Ward to be a lot weaker than he was so rather than work on nullifying some of Ward's strengths they fell into a mindset of complacency. Every soundbyte coming out of Team Froch seemed to be about his/Ward's power or strength. I really think they just expected to walk him down and throw big punches and wear the guy down, which was incredibly arrogant and poor analysis of his opponent.

    Needless to say nothing they could have done would have made him competitive.