If Bute isn't worthy of a shot at Ward, how is Dre Dirrell worthy of a shot at Bute?

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    True. But only at a certain range. Mid-range Bute is great. We havent seen how he'd handle a guy boxing on the outside or getting rough with him on the inside. :good
     
    MichiganWarrior, Dec 27, 2011
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  2. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did I show you what happened last time André Dirrell met a danish robot? Hint: the dane was a lightweight and Dirrell was KTFO.
     
    BatTheMan, Dec 27, 2011
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  3. makavel

    makavel Active Member Full Member

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    That fresh wather must've done some brain damage to you.
     
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  4. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Johnson wasn't "timing Bute with the jab". When he did catch Bute with it, he was eating right hooks to the jaw. That's what Badlok pointed out.

    If you can't see Bute boxing with Dirrell, you see him brawl or what? ..the ****?!? :rofl
     
    drozzy, Dec 27, 2011
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  5. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Bute is a guy who trows punches from such angles that you don't see them coming. Bute has good power with a nice speed attached to it, that if you lave yourself open for might end the fight. Bute's attaks varies from head to body with a frighting frequency, Bute has good footwork that can cut the ring with, he is a Hute SMW, he has the best and most powerful body-punch in boxing today, He's head and upperbody movements are making opponent miss and let themselves open for a counter. Because of that movement he is almost impossible to be hit with one hail-marry Ko punch. He also can dodge and still be in the range to strike back.
    My point is you don't know Bute that well and you're only seeing Ward's skills. Bute is good and he has a chance, bigger than anyone at SMW and LHW.
     
    BeastsideBoxing, Dec 27, 2011
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  6. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    As much as we haven't seen Dirrell or Ward against powerful counterpunchers. :good
     
    drozzy, Dec 27, 2011
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  7. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Ward or Direll let them self open like you in your thread it will be a massacre
     
    Badlok, Dec 27, 2011
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  8. pit5bul

    pit5bul New Member Full Member

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    can you spell "DUCK" ?? thats what Ward is doing... but he is the champion... and its his call
     
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  9. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Bute will Knock-Out Dirrell in 10.

    Johnson jab is a work of art, polished during those so many years he had so far in boxing.That jab looked technically perfect. And statistically he landed in a very very small percentage comparing with what he trow. He landed far more against Froch and at a better percentage.
     
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  10. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    The Dirrell's think he's all hype, especially after facing "a lot of Canadians". :hey

    Bute would probably cut the ring off vs Dirrell in a more efficient fashion than Froch did.

    Actually Froch was more less following him around instead of playing the position vs ropes game.
     
    drozzy, Dec 27, 2011
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  11. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't understand why american and UK fightfans can't accept that Lucian Bute is the overall best SMW bar none.

    He's stronger than Ward, slicker than Dirrel, and takes a shot better than both. His resume is not as good as Ward's, but he tried like hell to get into the s6 only to be lobbied against by G@@53N.

    If he were not in a contract with HBO when the s6 was first started it would be game set match and the s6 would be the S6.
     
    chitownfightfan, Dec 27, 2011
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  12. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    **** all this talk. Ward needs to step up and give Bute the shot.
     
    Juiceboxbiotch, Dec 27, 2011
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  13. Paulie

    Paulie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    run SOG run...
     
    Paulie, Dec 27, 2011
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  14. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Beside you & Slice, I don't see many Americans calling for Ward-Bute right away. I bet Showtime would like to make the fight too. :D


    Ward said he was interested in becoming a multi divisional champ. He was given the chance to fight Bute in Oakland, and what came out of Goosen was that they needed 'an easier fight'.

    Thing is, say he had beaten Bute for the IBF belt in April 2012, rematched Kessler in summer/fall with the WBO belt at stake, he would have been ready to make the jump to 175 early 2013 having cleaned up and unified 168.

    Because of timelines associated with WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO mandatories, we might very well not see a full unification go down. All that, to get that 'easier fight'.

    Of course that's my opinion on how things would have gone had he chosen to go for Bute right away. If anyone feels mandos will not be an issue from here on, I'd like to hear about how they see things unfolding to actually allow for a full unification.
     
    drozzy, Dec 27, 2011
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  15. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wtf?? Anthony Dirrell. Yeah that will be a great fight, huge sell out.:roll:

    He's ducking Bute clearly, but after Lucian knockouts froch, unless Ward leaves the division, he will be forced to fight him.
     
    tito44, Dec 27, 2011
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