JMM & Bradley Sounding Eachother Out for Potential Clash

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  1. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    JMM isn't looking to retire, he wants Pac in a forth fight away from Vegas if he doesn't get that then he wants either Bradley or Morales but prefers Bradley.

    Bradley has been told and has welcomed the fight although his sights are set firmly on Pacquiao he relishes the idea of fighting JMM.

    How's this go down? Meat on the bone answers please :good

    I personally prefer this fight more then Pac vs Bradley or JMM vs Pac 4.
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    The fact he doesn't want a fight in Vegas might mean smaller purses. Will Bob and PAC go for that when they could fight Floyd for the big bucks.

    I'm hoping they have a 4th fight. If they don't, with Khan fighting Peterson (another hope) then JMM and Bradley is the biggest fight to be made at 140 I think.

    Interesting how he is sounding out Bradley and not Khan or Peterson but I suspect because Bradley is the number 1 with Khan losing.
     
  3. Realistically outside of a Pacquiao fight it's the best fight out there for both guys.

    Marquez would beat Timmy I feel.
     
  4. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Great fight if made, JMM would obviously start favorite but i'm intrigued by this fight Bradley's a Plan A,B,C and D man!. He's got one of best boxing brains in game right now and you mix that with a craftsman like Juan and you got something special. 12 rounds for the purists.
     
  5. BoxingAnalyst

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    Would be a great fight. Bradleys workrate against the quality ppunching Marquez, make it happen! Marquez UD.
     
  6. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    After Marquez's performance against Manny, I am in awe of the little dude again. Timmy's not too much bigger and stylistically gives opportunities for Marquez to land.

    Timmy works hard but the way Juan puts punches together... it's total man-crush material. I can see this being a very competitive fight where Timmy's defence and movement forces Marquez to the wall for a close decision. The Mexican maestro takes Desert Storm's belts in a thriller.
     
  7. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    ^^^ Yep it's gonna be a damn good fight if made, i can't see it being a bore these two fight but fight with skills.
     
  8. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    This is a VERY tasty match-up on paper, but i don't think it's a great one for Marquez. Bradley really has little flaws and he can fight different ways. JM Marquez is in his element when you fight balls to the wall and he creates opportunities off your offense. Bradley not only makes little mistakes but he can fight backwards and counter the counter puncher. He's what me and Mand like to call a chameleon.

    I'm not sure i would be going in with someone like Bradley who's not ganna get you a MASSIVE payday if i was Marquez' age and with his wear and tear. This type of fight is one where Marquez' performance against Pacquaio who is a totally different style becomes fools gold. It's an awesome match-up, but i would pick Bradley to win a decision in a brillient fight, which would be technical more than a brawl. I don't like Marquez' feet these days when he's on the front foot. Still incredible when he's baiting and snatching, but i think his feet have slowed down a tad and that's not a good look against Timmy.

    Something else i wanna say about Bradley which makes him effective. Look at him from the first round of his fights then take a look at him in the last round. It's something i like to do with fighters...Bradley doesn't lose one bit of posture and form from the first to the last. Now the quality of opponent, the situations you are put in etc all have an effect. But it happens too many times for it be a coincidence. And when something keeps happening and it helps a fighter it's a strength, When it keeps happening and it hurts a fighter then it's a weakness.

    Almost EVERY fighter loses form and posture when fatigued. There's a select few who don't and Timmy is one of them.
     
  9. Pad-Man

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    Very good post. I agree with your high rating of Bradley. But for me JMM takes this. Bradley has never mixed with an operator like JMM. The skill set and sheer finesse of JMM's work will be the difference. I don't think Bradley is good enough to solve a puzzle as complex as JMM who can box, fight and bang at an elite level.

    Bradley is a top fighter we need not talk about that. But JMM whilst being on a decline in speed makes up for in the descriptions stated with unrivalled experience and ring intelliegence, a marvel in the ring. He is the boxer's boxer. This fight is about level's and JMM is one or 2 above Bradley even on a decline. I can't see anything other than a 8-4,9-3 win on the cards for JMM.
     
  10. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    If this fight happens Marquez will counterpunch the **** out of Bradley

    I can imagine Timmy's head rocking back and forth as if he's bopping his head to a song only he can hear
     
  11. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Will Timothy give JMM the chances to counter-punch, you can't counter something that hasn't been thrown. I get what your saying JMM is magnificent at it but Bradley's very compact and picks his moments well. People see Timmy as this marauding character but remember against Witter in his first major test he was patient and precise against a awkward guy. Yes different levels but Bradley can box as well as brawl hence the Chameleon tag.

    That being said JMM presents problems for Bradley, just pointing out Bradley may play chess with JMM.

    Slip a very good post as ever mate, Very true about the posture something i hadn't picked up on before :good.
     
  12. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Hey, i don't wanna sound like i'm overrating Bradley. I'm not calling him special like Ward is or anything, so don't get me wrong. Marquez will NEVER capitulate in a fight, he's an all time competitor and i can eulogize about his skills all night. But i just think Bradley wins this fight. You say Marquez is a complex puzzle to solve, but i think Bradley would be the rubix cube that has to be solved here.

    Marquez has never had the best defensive reflexes and therefore never been hard to find and with his legs slowing down a little bit, i think he needs the perfect style for him to be successful.

    I just think he would struggle with someone like Bradley, who is young, almost complete in all areas, physically strong at 140, has good footwork, can pivot on the turn and not show his hand for oppurtunities to Marquez.

    Plus i think Bradley's ring IQ isn't shabby either, he can adjust on the fly too. This would be a VERY different fight to the Pacquaio one. Take a look at Marquez fight with Barrera for a little glimpse of this. Not comparing Bradley to Barrera, and won't neccesarily be similar fight all the way but look at what Barrera was doing at mid range in that fight.

    Bradley's footwork is underrated. He has very educated feet. The biggest reason i would pick Bradley is as i said before, he can counter the counter-puncher. Timmy's bait n snatch with the right hand is serious! he can pull and counter with that shot like anyone.

    Marquez has a tendency to WAIT for your punches. That's okay against certain styles but not against someone like Bradley. You have to force Bradley's punches by making him come forward that would be Marquez strength in this fight, if Bradley came forward. But i think he would play cat and mouse for the most part because he can.

    People forget Bradley is NOT primarily a come forward fighter. He's just fought guys were he HAD to make the fight. Actually when he comes forward like against Kolt is when he's easiest to counter. Marquez wouldn't be able to do what he's so relient on, and that's setting traps.

    Marquez eats come forward guys who can't fight on the edge of range and the inside UP! They're meat and drink to him. Bradley would force him to use his feet more.

    I'm not counting Marquez out or saying he wouldn't win. I think it's 50/50. But i would pick Bradley to take it.

    Anyway, it'd be interesting if it happens because the debates are ganna be lively, lol. I can already see i would have to fight off a storm...:good
     
  13. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rumor has it that Tim only takes this fight if he has a guaranteed shot at Paccy even if he loses.....
     
  14. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Makes sense because a win over Marquez would make him a bigger name and more viable Pacquiao opponent. But Marquez is a free agent (correct me if i'm wrong) so how can Bradley demand that even of he loses? Unless TR are really pushing for him to fight Marquez.
     
  15. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I forgot to mention I started the rumour:cool::yep