Calzaghe vs Reid full fight

Id challenge anyone to say how they feel Reid could have won and ask anyone

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Remember Reid had a point deducted also.

 

:---(

 

I remember that

 

British Calzaghe fighting on the little island of Britain again but this is an "away fight"

hilarious

 

In Calzaghe land everything is ****ing crazy. The refs, the promoters, the fans, the haters, and not to mention the rate of success.

 

Reid was world class and a recent world champion Scar.
Its not his fault he wasnt born in America.

Slight tangent, but:

The fact of the matter is, if it was left purely to the American Boxing media and fight fans to decide who was worthy to get and receive World title shots, Brits would never get them. I doubt continental Euros would either.
Thats not hyperbole, i truly believe that.

It would just be Americans fighting Americans for world titles, year after year.
(apart from the tiny insect divisions, possibly)

Your Fight media and fans would turn Boxing the same way as all your own insular sports, with their 'World Series' and all that nonsense.

 

2 fights previous reid lost to Thulani Malinga who lost it to Woodhall

This is the only reason these guys are "former champs"

WBC belt doing the rounds on the UK circuit

they couldnt even hold it between them before facing Joe

typical stuff here

 

That was before the Woodall fight.

 

Calzaghe won at least 8 rounds, so never any doubt in this fight.

Calzaghe usually wins the rounds clearer and clearer on his stamina... so him winning round 2, 3, and 4 before the hand injury shows that he most certainly would have scored a shout-out 11-1 without the injury. Even with the injury he clearly won 8 rounds.

 

Wrong. Woodall was in Calzaghe's camp and spotted the glass.

 

Looking at this fight.. Joe starts laughing and going behind Reid making f....ing movements etc from round 3 already... Was Kessler the only fight where Calzaghe didnt really shoboat and try to ridicule the opponent? Or has there been other fights - perhaps Eubank ( havent seen that for ages)?

 

Conveniently forgot to mention that this fight took place when Calzaghe was going through an absolutely terrible phase of injuries in his career (at least one of which was career threatening). They were so bad he wasn't even able to spar properly for a over year. Just take a second to think about that. Ask any pro how much of an integral part sparring plays during their preparation for fights, and why that is? It's all well and good hitting the pads and the bags, but that doesn't come close to mimicking a real fight against a moving target who's throwing punches back at you with bad intentions. In fact, Joe was actually coming off a ten month layoff prior to this fight due to suffering a series of nasty injuries, even having to undergo surgery on one of them at one point.

You also forgot to mention that Joe was carrying a bad injury to his POWER HAND from at least the half way point (which journalists at the post fight press conference described as ''swollen horribly around the knuckles'') which dramatically reduced the number of power shots he was able to throw with it.

Here's a little insight into what he was going through around that time and a few passages from his autobiography where he talks about a recurrent injury he suffered to his wrist as a teenager that threatened to curtail his career before he'd even joined the pro ranks.

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''I'm not familiar with all the medical jargon but what became clear from the X-ray was that there was extensive tissue damage in what is known as the interosseous membrane, which holds the bones in proper position. Once this happens, it fails to stabilise the position of the bones and this will recur when force is applied, leading to further pain and injury. I went home and told my dad and he was as devastated as I was, but I refused to believe the doctor. I kept trying to put the paim out of my head and still went to the gym to train, strapping my wrist up heavily with bandages, but there was nothing I could do with it. I couldn't box. I couldn't even shadow-box. I would wince with the pain. Ultrasound and different treatments were carried out in the hospital over the following weeks and months but the problem wouldn't go away. Even now I can't press on my wrist or do press-ups properly. I have to do them on my knuckles. Eventually, I overcame the problem with willpower, shutting out the pain and putting so much strapping and tape on my hands inside big gloves that it looked like I was punching with cushions. But for the time being there was nothing to do but take a complete rest and put boxing to the back of my mind.


''In my heart I never considered quitting boxing. Of course, I was frustrated about the injuries and the way my career was going, but I was still champion and I needed to fight. even if only for financial reasons, there was no way I could walk away from the sport.

''I knew I wasn't performing and, emotionally, this was hurting me because I've always felt good about doing what I do. I find it strange sometimes but I know I make a difference in people's lives and that's uplifting, especially when I'm training. Sometimes when I'm at home and I don't have a fight to look forward to I get depressed, because climbing into the ring and standing under those shinning lights, surrounded by thousands of people who are about to experience a unique kind of thrill, is the most exciting, daunting, frightening and beautiful feeling.

''I had not sparred for over a year at this point but said to Frank that I wanted to carry on and I would fight Sheika, if the date was pushed back. So he set a new date of 12 August at Wembley Conference Center and persuaded me to come to training camp in Cheshunt in Hertfordshire to get some good sparring in. Frank knew I was much better than I'd been showing and he wanted to make sure that I was right, that I would have the best possible chance of producing the kind of performance I hadn't been able to, for a variety of reasons, since the Eubank fight. I spent two weeks in Cheshunt, the only time I've gone away to train in my pro career, and I was absolutely woeful. My timing was way out, my movement wasn't good, I was lazy because I hadn't sparred for ages and I was getting caught, my confidence was shot and it was all just dreadful. I was so out of practice in terms of sparring that I'd loaned my Reyes protector, which gives protection on the sides, to one of my mates, and had to wear one that didn't have any padding on the sides. After one session one of my kidneys was killing me and the next day I had a big, black bruise on my side where I'd been punched just below the belt. For two weeks I sparred, Monday to Friday, home at the weekend, back to sparring Monday to Friday again. Then around the middle of the second week I began to see some signs of improvement. I was timing my shots better and seeing the punches coming, so I was slipping them. My balance, which had been the most awful aspect of my performance against Starie, wasn't quite perfect but I was getting there. I was feeling more confident in myself and, most importantly, my elbow wasn't troubling me at all.


''Worryingly, I began to have problems with my right wrist during training for my next title defence against mandatory challenger Juan Carlos Gimenez, who had been the distance with both Eubank and Benn. It was recurrence of the injury that jeopardised my career as a teenager and affected my preparations a lot in sparring and general bag work. I went to see a specialist but there wasn't much I could do except protect the hand as much as I could.

''I underwent another operation on the problematic wrist, which didn't seem to do much except keep me out of the ring for the next ten months, which was terribly frustrating at a time when I was hoping to build some momentum in my career. Over the years I've tried loads of different methods to try to make the wrist better, even soaking the bandages in vinegar before I wrapped my hands.

''The operation itself left me unable to throw a punch for three months, and then I injured my left elbow in an innocuous sparring session with Gary Lockett. I was only throwing a few jabs when I jarred the elbow but it was enough to extend my stay on the sidelines. A bout that been planned for the Autumn had to be scrapped, so I set my sights on having a better 1999.''

 

WBC at it's best. Kind of surprising the belt left Mexico or a border state, though.

 

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