Slugfests help ATG status more than boxing ability

It helps popularity more, look how many people critisize rocky marciano because they dont like his boxing skills yet if you are a great boxer with a weak resume people act like you are an amazing atg.
Therefore I feel its the other way around.
But a good schooling over a very good bxoer definitely helps your legacy, e.g pac over cotto or hearns over hill.
You cant view it as mindless brawling imo, more boxer punchers outboxing.
Works the other way around as well, if you are a great boxer showing you are willing to go to war helps your legacy as well e.g. leonard hearns tko 14.

 

no

 

No they dont

 

Ricky Hatton, end of thread.

 

Well according to HBO's 'boxing analysts/commentary' yes...

 

You pose an interesting point.

 

It certainly helps popularity because the casual fan would rather watch a slugfest than a chess match. But ATG status amongst casual boxing fans comes down to the fighters popularity. Im from Nicaragua and fighters who people talk about and have talked about in the recent past(other than pacquiao) are mayweather, jones jr, bhop, de la hoya and cotto. None of them being brawlers. So really it comes down to your popularity, however is it that you get it.

 

i think its true

I mean would Ali have been as legendary without the Thrilla

where would Hagler be without the 3 round war with Hearns

Morales and Barrera without the wars

Marquez without the Pac wars

truth is memorable fights and great feats of over coming the adversity of a punch for punch knockdown blood bath immortalize fighters

you cant be an ATG without being great but some greats surpass others because of the wars they were in

 

In any sport, fans like to see competition. Not blowouts. Therefore, skilled boxers that have to dig deep because their opponent is not completely outclassed tend to gain fans. Likewise, brawlers who have to gut it out also gain fans. Boxing is not completely about skill, it's about heart and will.

 

you're sort of right, just as an example, would remember Brewster or Liahkovic if they hand't fought that war in 2006? but not all great fighters are remembered for brawling in the ring

 

Floyd sells more on a per fight basis than pac- there goes that theory

Perhaps Pacs style is why he is popular but he is also much more willing to take risks than most and fight over the odds weight wise

Wlad and Vit are a different breed and they could easily take a few risks and finish their fights a lot earlier, their unwillingness to engage over ,over matched opposition both weight and skill wise is tiresome to anybody

Muhammad Ali was in a generation of really exciting sluggers and he was more popular than them all.

 

first of all, i don't agree with your post because it is out of context.
slugfests usually happen when two top fighters at the highest level compete against each other. To win, you usually need to pull something out of the hat other than just pure boxing ability. This can happen in boxing if you fight tough competition where you have to fighter with strong will to win. The slugfest is the result of this when you match up competition, otherwise everyone would just want to watch all the bums who kill each other when there is no skill involved. Fans identify with fighters.

The reason why Manny might be more popular than Floyd is because Floyd retired for 2 years when the division was at its peak while Manny was perceived by the public to take on tough competition, the top welterweights.

If victor ortiz, for example, would not have ****ed up. He might have pushed floyd to the limit. Floyd might have been able to showcase his talent without necessarily having to get into a slugfest and his stock would have been sky high. But it will be a year since fans have seen him fight again.

SO i think your thread is slightly inaccurate with some fair points nevertheless.

 

Not really, and definately not these days. If a top fighter has a war in a fight they were favored to win they get immediately degraded after by fans today. Only works in 50-50 fights and when an underdog wins.