James tony(Barkley fight) vs Joe Calzaghe(Kessler fight)

I think Calzaghe wins by being the busier fighter, his durabiliyt is underestimated, he could take what Toney dished back.

 

Come on, anyone who doesn't understand that the stylistic advantage is so heavily in Toney's favour in this one really doesn't understand boxing. Featherfisted volume puncher with no defence vs hard-hitting cultured counterpuncher. Death by a thousand counter-rights, Toney late TKO or wide UD due to several knockdowns. :deal

 

I ask that anyone who hasn't seen the Toney vs Barkley fight to watch it! Then ask your self if Joe C. could make it out of the fight, against that James Toney a winner... I know James would have smashed that version of Joe or any other 168 fighter in the world today. James was a monster during that time.

 

absolute total domination then after the fight calsapy gets arested for happy slaping

 

Toney wide decision or TKO.

 

look at the level Toney was fighting at, when SMW champ

1993 he wins the title from iran barkley a fighter who years earlier was blown away by nigel benn in 1 round and pummelled to a loss by a shot roberto duran barkley went onto lose 11 out of 25 fights following this fight and never beat anyone who was remotely good in doing so,the guy was so desperate he was even plying his trade as a HW in the late 90's against the likes of berbick and they say this era is a joke

govonor chambers a guy with a career record of 9 wins 7 losses, all 3 fights prior to toney were ko losses!

ricky thomas: won 11 lost 14,the 4 fights he had prior to toney all losses!

glenn thomas:won 29 lost 8, lost to roy jones prior to toney and finished his career with a first round ko loss to jeff lacy.

danny garcia: won 30 lost 22, was coming off losses to chris pyatt (a steve collins victim) lamar parks etc

larry prather: won 19 lost 24,lost his last 5 fights prior to the toney fight even losing to nicky piper

tony thornton: won 37 lost 7,lost to chris eubank a year earlier.

anthony hembrick: won 31 lost 8,lost to maske prior to toney and orlin norris a year earlier.

tim littles: won 27 lost 3,maybe one of his better wins,had fought mainly bums with the exception of a close UD over frankie liles,went onto lose to frankie liles in a 2nd contest following the toney fight.

vinsom durham: won 21 lost 37 enough said.

charles williams: won 37 lost 7 drew 3,lost to maske prior to toney.
(this post was improvised from ESB great Silencer, on one of his great threads)and finally the Jones fight where Toney lost.

Toney had the most dreadful run at SMW. Anyone that thinks Toney who couldnt beat S Williams at first ask, or couldnt beat the legendary Thadzi and looked lucky to many against Tiberi could possibly beat the best SMW ever is deluded.

Calzaghes resume at SMW and LHW far outweighs Toneys.

So all these dummys that think Toney could pick Calzaghe off forget that Tiberi was beating Toney on weak pressure and Calzaghe has alot more to his game than Tiberi

 

Anyone can look like a monster depending on who they fight. I dont think beating Barkley proves you beat Slappy.

 

I'd go for JC as well. I dont think the glorified counter puncher is the best choice to beat Slappy. I think you need someone who can keep up with him, or someone who has really devastating power like a prime Roid Jones.

 

Barkley wasn't fighting in a weak era even though he wasn't the very best at 168, the way Iran was dominated was a thing of beauty. James put on a true clinic against a fighter who would have been a champion during Joe's era.

 

Is that Barkley blown out in a round by Benn

 

The Toney Narkley fight is not that special. Benn blasted him out in one round a few years prior.

 

Calzaghe has a MUCH better 168 resume, Toney hasnt done nearly enough at 168 to be regarded as an important fighter in that division

Having said that James Toney's skillset will pose Calzaghe a number of problems. Toney matches Calzaghes handspeed, except they have two different ways of demonstrating their speed. Calzaghe swarms his opponents and uses quick hands to nullify his opponents, whereas Toney is strategical and judicious in the way he throws his punches. And that in my opinion is the difference between the two fighters, Toney will be able to counter Calzaghe and disrupt his rhythm at will. The fight will be close but Toney's inside work and head movement will make it difficult for Calzaghe to really get his rhythm going in the fight

 

Calzaghe wasnt nearly as slow as Barkley. Plus he was a lot harder to hit. Plus he had a better chin. Plus he could recover from a knockdown better than anyone in his time :deal

 

calzaghe would lacy toney, this is a 120-108 shutout.

toney fanboys are that desperate to boost their steroid riddled idol that they cling to wins against a complete eurobum like jirov and against a barkley that got stomped on in 1 round by benn and then lost to a shot 38 year old lightweight in duran.

delusional toney fanboys are quick to forget that even in his prime, toney was getting stomped on by the likes of dave tiberi, scraping life and death split decisions v sosa and johnson, whilst scraping a draw with all time great sanderline williams.

 

Benn was a ****ing monster himself.... not as technically sound as Toney but had the power, talent and mentality that made him and Eubanks some of the best boxers around MW and Super MW. That era was talent rich and Benn caught Iran clean....with quick sneaky right that Iran never recovered from. Benn was a tremendous fighter and knew how to finish off wounded prey.