Ismayl Sillakh: “I think if Ward fights Lucian Bute he will beat him easy!"

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  1. Boxing Girl

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    NEW RANKINGS!

    SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT
    1. Andre Ward
    2. Carl Froch
    3. Mikkel Kessler
    4. Lucian Butte
    5. Andre Dirrell
    6. Robert Stieglitz
    7. Anthony Dirrell
    8. Sakio Bika
    9. George Groves
    10. Dimitri Sartison
    11.Thomas Oosthuizen
    12.Edwin Rodriguez
    13.Jesus Gonzales
    14.Librado Andrade
    15.James Degale
     
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  2. Boxing Girl

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    Here is a ESB p4p so you can see how unbias the ranking commission is....

    POUND-FOR-POUND
    1. Floyd Mayweather Junior
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Sergio Martinez
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Andre Ward
    6. Bernard Hopkins
    7. Nonito Donaire
    8. Wladimir Klitschko
    9. Timothy Bradley
    10. Vitali Klitschko
    11.Miguel Angel Cotto
    12.Yuriorkis Gamboa
    13.Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    14.Robert Guerrero
    15.Kazuto Ioka
     
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  3. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  4. MrPeterson

    MrPeterson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sillakh is a cool guy with serious skills, he is becoming the most feared man in boxing
     
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  5. Daytona00

    Daytona00 Member Full Member

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    Yes I did. A guy who talk **** and fought no one is a bum in my book.

    Pascal would school him too.
     
    Daytona00, Jan 1, 2012
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  6. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I do know Demers more than you. He was put #15 of the IBF MW rankings just to make an easy return for Abraham after his broken jaw. Demers is a local fighter, nothing more, and Green jad a tough fight against him. Green was once a prospect but he did nothing since his surgery. Being delusional about Ward wOn't change the reality: Green is not a top win.

    Using your logic, Bute beat Dingaan Thobela, a former world champion, in his 9th professional fight. :nut
     
    laffie, Jan 1, 2012
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  7. Sidious

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    So you ranked Andre Dirrell #5 cause he beaten Darryl Cunningham and above a belt holder like Stieglitz?And Froch above Kessler :patsch...no worry,it's not like anyone takes you seriously around here.
     
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  8. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Where is Balzsay?! Why is he not on the super middleweight rankings :?

    Ioka and Robert Guerrero p4p?!
     
    Hozumi's Hook, Jan 1, 2012
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  9. Sidious

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    but where are Arthur Abraham,Jermain Taylor,Allan Green and Glen Johnson? i guess super6 was indeed a shitty tournament afterall...you had only 2 guys rated in top5 when it started and now you have 3..and the other who attend to that **** tournament not even in top15?cause let's be serious,neither Dirrell should be in top 15,he beaten Cunningham in last 2 years and his best win is Victor Oganov.
     
    Sidious, Jan 1, 2012
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  10. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bute is not a cakewalk for Ward regardless of who he fought. He can box withWard. He has the skills and the mental disipline. Froch cant box, Abraham caint box, Green was a bum and Ward took kessler out of game which he cant do with Bute. You guys got it twisted, its a 50/50 proposition at this point. Ill even venture to say that Ward hasnt faced a boxer of Bute caliber as of yet, and he knows it. However, he is a quick study but so is Bute.:bbb:bbb
     
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  11. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    She clearly doesn't know Demers too well. Good one..:good

    The irony about Jenna & G. Ciani is that they praise themselves for conducting respectful interviews where boxers will feel like coming back again, but then they get on this forum and openly bash a guy like Bute....

    Immaturity or hyppocrisy ? Who knows, but it's irony at it's best.
     
    pasky2000, Jan 1, 2012
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  12. Eastcoast

    Eastcoast Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree 100%.
     
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  13. Boxing Girl

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    Allan Green beat Ola Afolabi in only his 4th fight, who went on to become a belt holder :nut Whether you rank Green or not, he was in fact a top contender at the time he entered the super 6.....he had won 6 straight fights after his surgery, beating a former world champion, a ranked contender, and a undefeated fighter in 26 bouts, so many considered him a good choice as a replacement for the tournament , and as I said before, ENTERING THE SUPER 6 HE *WAS* better then most of the fighters Bute has fought for a title...the only fighters on Bute's resumes of higher quality were Andrade, Bika, and Glen Johnson......you can downgrade Ward's level opponent's until your Blue in the face, it won't change the fact the Bute's resume is quite weak, and most of his title defences were farces.
     
    Boxing Girl, Jan 1, 2012
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  14. Boxing Girl

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    The Super 6 was to decide the best the super middleweight in the world....Ward finished first........Froch finished 2nd. #1 & 2. Kessler has fought a far higher class of fighter then Bute, and if not for dropping out of the super 6 and taking time off, he would be at #2. Bute get's #4 and now that Dirrell returned, it terms of class, he gets #5. Stieglitz is weak, as he crushed by Andrade who got robbed of a ko win against Bute, but he has defended so he gets #6
     
    Boxing Girl, Jan 1, 2012
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  15. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Green was an extraordinary replacement because he was not dangerous.
    Do you seriously think Ward's promoter would have accepted Bute as a replacement? Of course not, by far too dangerous.

    Green is American, was overhyped and undefeated. He was perfect to make ordinary people think he was good.

    Green is not even top 15 material. No ring IQ, poor skills, good athletic abilities but too unidimensional and he has no heart as we saw against Ward. He didn't even try to do something. Froch was dominated but still tried.

    Are these your best arguments to hype Ward's resume? It is pityful.
     
    laffie, Jan 1, 2012
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