Fighters who's records can't be criticised..

no you can crack Cotto's also. Shane was past prime, Zab hadn't fought in a year and coming off 2 losses. Margarito was done by the time Cotto beat him. And you can go on.

I won't comment on the Klitkshkos

I think Druan's resume is hard to crack apart. Even if you think SRL just used to wrong gameplan, it doesn't take away the fact that Duran jumped 2 divisions to fight him

 

all the fighters we call greats

 

Edwin Valero

 

I may be wrong but I dont there was a light welterweight division back then. So he only jumped one division.

 

Harry Greb. He fought all the best while in their prime. He should be considered the GOAT.

 

manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather are both undoubtedly all time greats yet their records can be criticized. rightfully so imo.

 

There was.

Duran had multiple fights @ 140 throughout the 1970s. He most notably beat Palomino @ 147 prior to Leonard who was in his first bout since an SD loss to Benitez in PR. There was just a lot of talk about his power not being up to the same level at the weight.

It's an amazing win because Leonard is the consensus #2 WW ever and Duran was the only one to defeat him in his prime. I wouldn't say Duran jumped as much as he simply wasn't going to make 135 anymore anyway, and he'd capped off his reign with the unification KO of rival Esteban DeJesus to take the rubber match.

 

I think Ali is the perfect example, he fought some of the greatest heavyweights when they were in their prime. His resume is almost perfect.

 

Liston threw the fight x2, crippled back patterson, frazier schooled him and he only beat him after he became a foreman leftover, green big george after that he ducked a rematch, lost to norton x3 stopped by holmes etc.

Ali is one of my favourite boxers to be honest and he is the heavy goat but you can really discredit anyone if you have that agenda, even ali.

 

Froch he’s fought the best in his weight class win or lose only got to fight Bute which he will only if more fighter had his attitude

 

You are criticizing yourself. If george was so green how did he cause Frazier to be a left over? Stopped by Holmes is a very silly thing to say given the circumstances. It's like judging RJJ's career based on his last few fights. Frazier beat him after a long layoff. Only good argument against Ali are the Norton fights.

 

Ali, HENRY ARMSTRONG, SRR. Hopkins, IS NO SLOTCH EITHER

 

Foreman is Ali's GOAT Win by far, far, far. He was a Destroyer In Prime. 40-0 (37). Had wacked the two fighters who'd both beaten Ali and inside of two rounds.

 

2012 will be changed to 20Kellve by future historians :deal

 

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