Dan Gossen about Ward vs. Bute

That's a sudden change of mind.From "The Super 6 winner needs to fight Bute" and "It's doing a good job right now" to "Bute needs to prove himself in order to fight me". That's ok mister Goosen , keep doing ya thing , fighting Tony Dirrel or Bernard in Oakland in front of that massive crowd of yours. Thank you Dan Goosen and California Jesus for introducing the notion of worthyness in the sport of boxing.

 

for whatever reason wards team dont want this fight next.

 

Goosen is talking about 16000 people not 60000. Edit your post

 

Too early to start accusing them of this. Let things develop a little bit more.

 

And waiting for what ?
To late, probably Bute will fight Froch next.

 

bute makes ward more money then anyone they will fight this is just negotiation ploy.all promoters lie

 

This sounds like a translation from English to another language (French) back to English, and something got lost in translation somewhere. He said by winning S6 and beating Bute, he will have accomplished everything he wanted and there won't be anything left for him at super middle, but in the same statement, he said he doesn't want to move up in weight, he wants to continue defending the titles. Ward is more articulate than this.

As for this whole situation, in my view (and I've said this before), I'm all on board with insisting that Bute fight a S6 standout (Froch, Kessler, Dirrell) before fighting Ward. Think about how few boxing insiders take Bute seriously right now because his greatest opponent to date was Glen Johnson, who is 1-2 at Super-middle and was decisively beaten by Froch. I know it's not Bute's fault for not being invited to S6, but it's clearly put a dent in his ability to build a great resume and prove himself to be a peer to Ward.

Ward has more or less hinted that Bute is the final stop at super middle. As the only remaining top super-middle, it's THE legacy-defining fight at the weight. If Bute's going to be the cherry on top, the opponent to put either himself or Ward over as one of the best accomplished super middles in its short history, he MUST silence the critics who question whether he's only being talked about because he wasn't eliminated in the S6 tournament. In order to do that, he has to show that he could also have advanced in the tournament if he were invited. In order to do that, he has to show himself as the "real" finalist by beating, preferably, Froch.

IMO, if he does that and Ward still avoids him, then we'll talk. But I find it hard to believe that there would be any degree of *fear* that Ward has of Bute. Bute is very, very good, but he doesn't come across as a world-destroying monster. Some guys make it sound as though if Bute had been invited to S6, Ward would have withdrawn, lol.

I agree with the poster who said, "let it play out". Bute fans should want Bute to fight Froch first too. Even if he were to beat Ward, Bute would still need a world-class resume to establish himself at an ATG SMW, and there's more interest and money with Kessler->Froch->Ward than an anticlimactic Ward->Froch->Kessler. That would be like showing Rocky vs. Spider Rico AFTER he fought Apollo.

Run the table, clean up the loose ends at the weight, and be the last two standing - as unquestioned equals. THAT'S how you build a super-fight. THAT'S how you bring in the casual fans. THAT'S how you make a PPV-worthy event.

 

Great post:good

 

Ward deserves a break I mean its easy to say someone is ducking you when your always front row at your fights .:hey

 

Any time promoters say they don't want a fight or a guy "is not worthy" they're just angling for leverage in negotiations. If they can convince the public that Bute is not a worthy opponent then they will be able to force the Romanian/Canadian team to make concessions to get the fight made.