Football managers and that tear lumps out of each other all the time ,are you not just saying that cause your on FW payroll ?
Whenever Bunce makes a post, make sure you remember this before you read it, FRANK ****** PAYS HIS WAGES
Or just remember him defending Haye/Audley saying it'd be good for boxing atsch That was anti-boxing. As is Clev v this Karpency fella.
They keep serving up shite then people will cancel their sub and watch the fight later as the result is a given 95% of the time anyway. The only way BN can make up for **** domestic fights is giving us good international fights. At this rate no one is genuinely interested in any domestic names for the first quarter other than Derek Chisora who (credit where credit due) managed to secure a bogus heavyweight title shot. Cleverly, Burns and Mitchell are in **** fights and DeGale, Groves, Murray etc have nothing signed. My BN sub expires in May so things better step up! I didn't pay £10 for FW to finance his **** fights to move from Sky to BN.
Think everybody is aware promotional self interest will always play a part in boxing, but the present situation is as strange as it has been for sometime. We have one of the biggest stables isolated on an in-house channel, and a ppv market that has been decimated by Haye which has lead to this development. Don't think anybody has genuine ill will towards it, but it is difficult to see how Boxnation can be a success in terms of delivering the fights that people want i.e. big fights. A small scale subscription channel charging a few quid a month is surely bashing its head against a brick wall in a sport where the participants receive individual fight purses, and in the case of the big fights, the large purses needed to bring them about. Thats why Arum and De la Hoya have their major platform HBO/Showtime comfort blankets.
Bunce, pardon my language here, but who give's two ****'s if either Euban Or Calzaghe lost early in their career? Bernard Hopkins lost his first fight! That's the problem with Fwank (and now you Bunce it seem's by your replies), somebody mentioned earlier than all Fwank seem's to care about is a fighter's unbeaten record. Now if Cleverly fought this guy, then had a massive Summer showdown with either Hopkins, Cloud, Dawson, etc then we'd forgive this fight, but we all know it'll be Cleverly v Maccarinelli in the Summer so that's why we're moaning
Correct, boxing is a business, paid for by the fans!!! keep the fans happy = more money and more interest = more fans = more money = more interest.
end of the story, is that fwank would rather let his best fighters, fight bums to keep their '0' creating boring, lob-sided wins, whereas eddie hearn lets his fighters fight the best.
Boxing is not just a business its also (and this sometimes gets forgotten) a sport and you concentrate on one at the expense of the other at your peril.
I'd question the integrity/knowledge of any ''fan'' who is kept happy by poor quality fights on a consistent basis. But then again I'm a boxing fan rather than a business fan, so what would I know.
Exactly! You can't silence the internet, we can all check records, videos, analysis, reports from any time whenever. I do believe the period of 'hyping' a fighter without decent opponents is going, and good riddance. Like the fact Bunce pretty much admitted the whole thing is bull****, and we should be glad boxing is onscreen despite its issues.
Brown Bomber hit on a point a few posts ago...we all know too much now. If this technology had been about 20 years ago then there is no Eubank, no B.Hearn and certainly no E.Hearn and possiblt no SKY boxing. Why would anybody under the present tough guidelines pay to watch Eubank versus Amaral? Who, under the present guidelines, would subscribe to SKY to watch Eubank fight men like Amaral? Fans now would demand Eubank v Toney and declare all other fighters bogus. Fans now know more about fighters and their records but far, far less about the sport and what makes the sport work. That's not an attack, it's a fact. Twenty or thirty years ago the fans had knowledge, now they have facts and figures and opinions based on hours of Youtube and not hours of being at live events and talking to people with first-hand knowledge. Consequently I'm a fool for only having watched two of Shumenov's fights compared to the average poster who has watched 29. The biggest expert is the man/woman with the biggest dvd collection...total bollocks. The websites are, let's tell the truth, very negative. So few fights get a thumbs up and that is not good for the sport. Adios for the night.