Is It Fair to Call Boxers Pre '91 World Champs When ½ the Globe Couldn't Participate

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Faerun, Jan 5, 2012.


  1. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Of course. No disrespect to the Cuban and the eastern bloc, but part of the reason they so successful is because they keep their older, more experienced fighters having to face very green competition. Notice I said "part" of the reason. Of course, they do produce great fighters from time to time like America would. Would there be more champions from communist countries? We don't know, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say yes, but not as many as most may think. We already seeing it with most not living up to their expectations and fail at the world pro level. Even the mighty Klitschkos havent been tested since Lewis the last great heavyweight and Gamboa has yet to face an elite. And these are the SUCCESSFUL ones I'm mentioning. Of recent memory perhaps only Kostya Tszyu has left his mark and made a legacy. Hurtado, Gomez, Solis, Chagaev, etc and others had respectable careers, but not hall of fame. Champions pre 91 its safe to say a good 90-95% remain champs. Alot has to do with boxing growing in popularity in one and fading in another.
     
  2. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think something like "Cold War World Champion" would be a good title.
     
  3. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The USSR accounted for nowhere near half of the worlds population.
     
  4. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously. My point is clear, though.

    Some decent contributions so far.
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    This America baby, we built on winning. Step ya game up, ******
     
  6. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, but they do account for over half of the best fighters through history.
     
  7. beefman180

    beefman180 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They fought the pool of competition that made up the professional ranks from the world at the time.

    Therefore, world champion.
     
  8. beefman180

    beefman180 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol::good
     
  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Yea, it is. Boxing is a business where you must prove yourself. These foreigners didn't get a chance to prove themselves, so they didn't.
     
  10. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    yes, it's fair, what're we going to call them, "most of the world champs"? not to mention, once you get into speculating who could have been a world champ from mostly eastern european countries and cuba, you're really getting into all sorts of unfounded opinion. all you can do is consider what's there now. the klitschkos dominate, and there are other former soviet fighters doing very well. in my opinion, klitschko dominance is definitely admirable, but less about their ability as much as it's about the fall from grace of american heavyweight boxing.
     
  11. makavel

    makavel Active Member Full Member

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    No , it's not. When you fight only your countryman , you're just a national champion , nothing more.
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    yes it's fair.
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    if your countrymen are the only ones in the world participating in the sport, then you're world champion.

    If other nations aren't putting forth professional boxers, that's their problem.
     
  14. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    American superiority is laughable but European hyper-sensitivity to it is hilarity defined
     
  15. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :thumbsup