30000 fans don't make $40m

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rza, Jan 11, 2012.


  1. rza

    rza New Member Full Member

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    First post.

    I just did a calculation on Bob Arum's idea that 30000 more fans will bring $40m. Firstly, I live in South Africa and I don't know how much people pay for regular boxing tickets in the US, but to make $40m from 30 000 fans you will need to charge $1 333 per ticket, and I don't think anybody will pay that for a back seat ticket even for Las Vegas standards. Exactly how much do people pay for boxing tickets in the US?
     
  2. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. FakeBlood

    FakeBlood CEO @ Fight Club Full Member

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    You're forgetting that tickets will likely range from a few hundred dollars (bad seats) to $10k+ or whatever for ringside. Obviously it wont be $1300 across the board.

    Although I do agree that the $40m figure is unrealistic.
     
  4. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The "erecting a temporary stadium" thing is an excuse.

    May 5 is booked. Has been for a while.

    Pac has fought early May at MGM a number of times in the past few years (as has Floyd).

    It makes perfect sense to fight then.

    It's clear that Arum (and I'm beginning to now believe Pac) don't really want this fight.
     
  5. modestbiggles

    modestbiggles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The more people in the arena, the more people in Vegas.

    The more people in vegas, the more $ people spend in casinos etc.

    The more money spent in Vegas on the weekend of the fight, the more money generated through sponsorship etc.

    Therefore, 30,000 extra people bring in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
     
  6. rza

    rza New Member Full Member

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    Remember that Arum is talking about extra 30 000 people for extra $40m which doesn't include those who would have been at ring side for MGM, so you can't charge $10k for these extra people or anything near that, plus stadiums don't have the same view as a theatre. At best you can charge a few hundreds for the seats, but it still won't get to $40m.
     
  7. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While you're probably right, we are talking about a fight that even if it was fought at the MGM, would generate more money than any other fight in boxing history.

    So surely money is not an issue.
     
  8. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Means nothing, due to Arum ascribing this figure to the gate exclusively.
     
  9. Scottrf

    Scottrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He’s surely talking about site fee. They don’t sell all the tickets, they charge the casino a fee, and they give the seats to the high rollers.

    The casino wants it at their place for the publicity, and for people to come because that’s where the fight is, so pay more than the ‘ticket value’.\

    EDIT: 30k more fans, ignore this.
     
  10. Thomas!!

    Thomas!! Guest

    That'd be an excellent point if all the tickets to boxing matches were equally priced. But those who have been to a boxing match before know that tickets range in price. your point is void
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The tickets for those extra 40,000 would be the cheaper $100 tickets, netting what 4million tops, it's small change
     
  12. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That **** is overrated. Sweatin' your ass off with 49,999 other mooks in the nosebleeds. **** that, my 65" hd flat screen, in the comfort of my own home will do just nicely.
     
  13. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not void at all since his point is that the $1333 figure is what would need to be charged on average for the additional 30000 seats, something that is highly unlikely. There wouldn't suddenly be a much greater number of ringside seats in any outdoor stadium than there woud be at the MGM. As PowerPuncher notes, the additional stadium seating would be cheap seats and cheap seats alone
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also if it's not in a casino, you lose the casino hosting payment that casinos pay to have all the big gamblers there, something around 20million plus
     
  15. Thomas!!

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    apologies. I realised that after I posted that it is 30,000 extra seats :patsch, jumped the gun there a bit, sorry. It is actually a point worth noting, maybe someone can explain how 30,000 can make $40m? i am pretty sure that Bob Arum is not fibbing about being able to make an extra $40m, after all he is such a penny counting Jew.