Which fight would enhance Joe's legacy most, if he beat Bhops: Pavlik or Dawson...

He has the undisputed championship already, that is a big deal.

 

Surely it DOES mater who ends up having the better career!!!!!! If he fights Dawson and beats him, but Dawson does nothing afterwards, it wont hold a great torch to JC legacy.On the otherhand, if he fights Dawson, beats him, then Dawson comes back and totally wipes out the lhw division, it adds hugely to JC's legacy (same can be applied to pavlik)

 

About the same.

Pavlik is more accomplished. A Champ, possibly at P4P fighter.

Dawson isn't so accomplished, but is naturally bigger, or at least started in a higher weight class.

 

Agree 100%. Did Jones beat a peak Hopkins? No. Then again it wasn't a peak Jones either, but both of them gained a lot of experience from the fight and became better from it. A fighter should get the respect from a win based on who he fought and how good that fighter was at the time he fought him. Sean gave a great example in another thread about how the Hopkins of 10 years ago was better than the Hopkins of today. Yet that Hopkins wasn't p4p ranked. Now however, he's a name and therefore, apparently, worthy of more respect!!

At the moment, Pavlik is a bigger name. But beating someone he's beaten already shouldn't gain him as much respect as say beating Abraham. Dawson o the other hand is facing a seasoned vet and a dangerous prospect. He also is a LH champ with more technical ability than the 160 Pavlik. Dawson would be a better win for Joe, imo. Although I see no reason why he can't fight both.

 

I disagree, I think it is important what happens afterwards, in the case of Lacy, people now say he wasnt any good in the first place, not just the fact that Joe battered him and ruined him, people would no-doubt say the same about Dawson if Joe raped him in the ring too, therefore I do believe its important what the fighter achieves afterwards, its not the be all and end all, but its important

 

In my Boxing fantasyworld it goes Hopkins UD, Pavlik KO10, Jones UD 12. Nice earners all the way, Sorts out Pavlik which takes out his main rival at middleweight/SMW and Jones for a Victory parade in Cardiff. Diamond.

 

A win over Dawson would hardly mean anything, because he's still young and doesn't even have a deep resume. A win over Pavlik means he beat a top p4p fighter and a very dangerous opponent, that would be a high mark in Calzaghe's resume.

 

id have to say dawson. beating the mw champ isn't as impressive as taking out an elite lhw. if pavlik can move up and do some damage first, then that could change. people nitpick oscar for cherrypicking smaller opponents so i dont think there is much difference here.

 

explain yourself.

 

At this point, beating one wouldn't have any more effect on his legacy then beating the other. But at least Dawson is a LtHW, which Joe C will be in his next fight.

 

To early for this thread Decebal
Diaconu will have Dawsons parents cowering under a blanket
A better thread would be
How many punches from Diaconu can Dawson take before being totally brutalised, mangled and beaten?

 

B-hop (who in my opinion is old and overrated) would do little, Dawson would be the toughest fight, But Pavlik has the better fan support and would do more for Calzaghe.