Bernard Hopkins and steroids

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  1. Relentless

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    common sense says yes
     
  2. Relentless

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    Thats because he has gone old

    even PEDs can't beat father time but they certainly put up a good fight against it.
     
  3. UniversalPart

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    What about hard work, dedication and application to your craft?


    Come on man, this whole PEDs thing has gotten out of hand.
     
  4. Relentless

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    No it hasn't, people are only starting to see it for what it is

    you should really read the Angel Heredia interview PED use is common especially by the highest level athletes, when money is involved fighters/athletes will do anything they need to.
     
  5. bald_head_slick

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    This is a silly poll. Steroids and other PEDs won't make you look good and perform WITHOUT hard work.

    Hopkins and/or anyone else could be on the crap. It doesn't make them bad people. They are trying to live and it is a reality of the sport.

    Either allow it and regulate it or step up to test right. Period.
     
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    PEDs are not a substitute for hard work, dedication, and application to your craft. They actually facilitate this.

    Out of hand? If you are clean submit to more rigorous drug testing. Period.
     
  7. Relentless

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    no ones saying it makes him a bad person


    How though? victor conte and angel heredia easily beat the toughest tetsing of all, theres no way out of PEDs.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    can't vote in this poll, the answers are not straight forward. just yes or no would've sufficed.
     
  9. Relentless

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    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356836[/url]

    "I’ve created 20 different drugs that are still undetectable for the doping testers"
     
  10. Manning

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    Innocent until strong evidence says otherwise. Like for instance how we all know Holyfield has been juicing for years.
     
  11. EpsilonAxis

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    until you guys have actual hard evidence, like Bernard failing any of the required tests put in front of him, SHADDAP.
     
  12. Relentless

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    tests are easily beat

    the toughest test of them the actual olympic testing has been beaten for years.
     
  13. Relentless

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    how can you test for what you dont know exists?
     
  14. Manning

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    Possibly he's paranoid of getting Don Kinged and failing a test when he's 100% not on the gear. I suspect this goes on too.
     
  15. bald_head_slick

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    There is always an implied moral component to this that it is "cheating". I want to make it clear that an athlete faced with the choice of being broke and well compensated based on using a training aid doesn't make them bad. Therefore answering the poll question isn't really the issue.

    You ALWAYS are willing to increase testing standards when better standards are available and economically viable. Or you create a list of allowable PED's and enforce SEVERE penalties for violation.

    Crime, cheating, corruption, etc... are all a facts of life. Doesn't mean we throw in the towel. It is just an arms race. The difference is that as the criminal behavior becomes more expensive to implement it becomes less accessible to most athletes. The fewer customers, the more likelihood of catching the culprits.