'Dark Lord' Adam Booth: The K brothers expect to be lauded as ATGs. I don't buy it.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by madballster, Jan 24, 2012.


  1. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    HHAHAHA OMG! I JUST LAUGHED:p:rofl

    Sultan somebody and Wladimir somebody.

    At: 1:02: If Wladimir is the best heavyweight, the heavyweight divison stinks.

    At: 1:45: Oh my cigar just ran away, just like everybody in the fight.

    At: 1:52: In the 2nd round I had to tell the person in front of me to quit snorring, because he was keeping me awake.

    Priceless Hahahhahahahahah
     
  2. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Wlad beating Byrd twice, easily both times, is at least as good, if not better, than Holmes' SD over Norton. Holmes' win over shot Ali doesn't really mean that much. Is it likely that version of Ali would have been competitive with Wladimir any time between 2005 and now? He probably wouldn't have been competitive with a 2000 Wlad either. These wins over ATGs don't really mean that much. Holmes has better wins over Cooney and Shavers, proving ATG wins probably aren't important enough in themselves to prevent a fighter with a long and dominant reign being an ATG fighter

    Wlad could pick up a win over ATG Holyfield whenever he wants but has too much class to take that fight
     
  3. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    an aggressive and attack minded pre Steward Wlad would beat the ALi who fought Holmes even worse then the current Wlad.
    He would had end Ali's night brutally.
    That fight should had never been sanctioned, Ali was a zombie and had no business in the ring, let alone in the same ring as Holmes
     
  4. Gooners2

    Gooners2 Archie Solis Full Member

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    Part of what makes Wladimir as effective as he is the discipline he's got. He never gives up his advantages, and lets be honest, with his chin he cant afford to. Had he committed to his punches too much, fell into range, Haye would of had a better chance of coming back with a counter, so instead of that he masterfully cut the ring down to close Haye's exits up, which meant Haye couldn't use the movement to create the angles he needed to shoot in, and cause he didn't have a jab to work his way in either, he got marooned out at long range where Wladimir could peck pick and poke at him. Maybe it weren't exciting, but he fought a perfect fight to almost dominate every second of the fight. Maybe he still should of knocked him out, but you still gotta respect how he dominated the fight imo. He wont be the first HW who's took someone the distance he shouldn't have, of coarse he's done it numerous times, but that's as much about his chin as we know. What do you want him to do though, extend himself to be more exciting so he gives crowd something to shout and about and the other guy a better shot at winning? Why do that when you cant control the action and not get hit? I mean it aint like he can afford to get hit cause he has a great chin but is still consciously making a decision to be boring. He used to be a more aggressive HW before getting KTFO.

    I personally didn't find Larry Holmees particularly exciting but he won. You can argue semantics but most people think Larry Holmes didn't fight the best opposition in addition to not being that exciting imo. Larry Holmes might be a better fighter but I see parallels there so we cant have any double standards.

    He put Briggs in the Hospital Jack. Didn't he break his cheek bone or something to? Adamek also got beat up imo. Difference is Vitali systematically beat people down. He might have a high KO% but I would say he's more a break you down with his consistency type of fighter.
     
  5. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    Jack is that kind of guy who you don't even know if he's really that ******ed or he's just trolling all the time.

    I sure hope for his sake that it's the latter one.
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Norton is better than anyone either Klitschko has ever beat.
     
  7. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Byrd, Sanders and Purrity all ended up sadisticly beaten up by either of the siblings. Only Lewis got away with a win over a Klitschko without getting trashed for it. This clearly proved Lewis is the head to head most dangerous heavyweight of all times.

    Haye was making some noise, but at the end of the day he had to bend over for the the mighty Klitschkos rightfully terms, and inside the ring he was unable to do anything against the superior beeing that is Wladimir Klitschko. Haye is now the laughing stock of UK.

    The "never fought a great" is an argument all right. I dont geek into the past all that much, but I sent the boxing geek Silencer a message, and I understand he is on the case to dig up some chump with a record shamefully padded with faded and overhyped ATG's, not to mention patheticly close fights against week contenders :D. This should bring more light of the achievements of the two great heavyweights our time has been blessed with.

    Embrace it Jack.
     
  8. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    GFTOOH.

    Holmes' win over Norton eclipses Wlad's win over Byrd seeing a Norton was a REAL heavyweight and Byrd was a blown up 168 lb'er.

    I think it speaks VOLUMES that Wlad's best win comes against a guy fighting two or three divisions above his prime fighting weight.

    I'd bet my bottom dollar that Wlad doesn't go five rounds with the Evander Holyfield that an ole Holmes took 12 rounds...
     
  9. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    lol...

    You need to leave the drugs alone...
     
  10. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    And then all of the sudden size DOES matter for the klit haters :)

    The same 168pounder who schooled Holyfield's ass and prime Tua

    It's easy to bet top dollar on something that could never be proven.
     
  11. grouche

    grouche Guest

    Common, you are scaring people shitless on this forum. Have mercy, will ya?
     
  12. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Anyone who writes a post that long about the Klitschkos is probably their mum.
     
  13. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    They're ATG'S.

    Vitali has never lost ***gots. Prime Vitali ko3 Lewis. :good:yep:good:rasta
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are far too many terrible points for me to respond to each of them individually. I will ask you all once again though. Name me a single fighter who is considered to be great, who didn't dominate a division and didn't beat a great opponent.

    Simple question, simple answer.
     
  15. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Silencer, you throw about these names like you're aware of who they are. It's clear that you spend far more time on BoxRec than watching fights. If you watched fights instead and you put as much effort into analyzing the bouts as you do analyzing records, you'd be a good poster. Instead, it's like you're in a world of your own, rambling on about things nobody cares about.