Why couldn't Pac be able to use his incredible movement and speed to turn Tito all night, not allow him to get set and get a UD peppering with his left and some combos? Look at the Tito in the Oscar fight, he looked bamboozled at times when Oscar was able to move on his toes side to side. Pac's movement is on another level and he can go for 12. I can see Tito winning by KO, it's possible, but he does not outbox Pac. Everyone saying Pac gets crushed and overwhelmed is virtually saying he is too small and out of his depth at welterweight. Makes his wins at welter and above seem even greater.
I know, guys like Trinidad and Oscar De La Hoya tend to get very overrated today by guys who hate the hype Pacquiao has generated. All we know is it's Pacquiao who will be put on the level of the Duran,s, Leonard's and Whitaker's. Oscar and Tito fall well short, great fighters that they were.
The problem is if a guy is young hes green , if hes old hes shot, if hes beaten hes not the same, if a different weight either drained or not big enough for the weight... It's nothing but excuses.. Even if you say catch weights suck fine.. But hes only had three out of sixty fights... So what about the rest of those fights... The only big win he got from a guy off a loss was Morales... Every body else had came back ahead proven them selve as major players in their divisions.. In the end Pac had faced and beat every one who will be remembered from this era...
Prime Pacquiao KOs every fighter past or present from 140-147 you dumbasses. Be it SRL, SRR, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Chavez (lol), de la Hoya (lmao), Mayweather (rofl). Don't you get it? The Prime-Pacmonster is unbeatable you wannabe-experts. You are the idiots that wrote on this forum that Hatton, de la Hoya, Cotto et al. would murder Pac, how did that turn out for you? I really wish Manny wouldve fought in the SRL-era, he would've KTFO all these muppets that you call your heroes and maybe then even you ******s would acknowledge the fact that the Pacman is p4p #1 of all time by a wide margin. Trinidad wouldve spent half the night on his ass if he fought Pac, that off-balance mofo couldn't make two rounds vs anybody without being put down bc of his disgraceful excuse of a mandible. He could load his fn gloves with granite and this featherfisted joke couldnt hurt Manny. Pac would beat Prime-de la Hoya so bad that this cocaine-sniffing hermaphrodite would rather sell his ass on the corner than to ever step back into that ring again. Tommy Hearns would get knocked out in the first round bc of his disgraceful chin, chickendance included. Duran would quit on his stool after the first round that heartless, gutless bum. Chavez would be bruised up worse after 1 round with Pac than Vitali after Lennox was through with him. Pac would toy with prime SRL just to knock him into a coma in the final round. SRR? Please...that overrated bum couldn't even hang with a barfighter like Lamotta, how is he supposed to even make it out of the first round vs a real ATG like Pac? And Floyd "Chicken" Mayweather is so scared of Manny that he would rather end his career to be 50cents fulltime-assbitch than stepping into the ring with the GOAT. You clowns are all so clueless its painful to read that crap that you are posting atschatschatsch Edit: Forgot about that bum Whitaker, maybe bc that joke didnt accomplish anything in his pathetic career other than drawing with a guy that Pac would eat for breakfast. Sweet Pea would get the boxing lesson of his life, Pac would demonstrate in impressive fashion who the real best technician of all time is.
Good to see I shut all you muppets up with my spot on-analysis. You can lock this thread down now mods, the truth has been told and there is no point continuing this disgraceful debate.
Oscar at 1998 at Welterweight would knock Pacquiao out, and Pacquiao is one of my favorite active fighters. Oscar at 154 2002-2003 would wreck him as well. The Oscar that killed the juiced-up Vargas would steamroll Pacquiao.
:roflatsch This is getting better and better. Next post will be about how Aaron Pryor would have a chance vs Pac...
Anyone who has followed boxing for a bit knows that theres fights and beatings you never recover from, Physically and mentally. Is it a coincidence that Pacquiao fought Margarito, Cotto, Mosley and Hatton all after getting KTFO or complete;y dominated...What a ****ing coincidence!! Catchweights: De La Hoya, Cotto, Margarito. All three considered some of his best fights..FFS he got bogus titles at 147 fighting at 145, and 154 fighting at 150. What kind of **** is that...And now he wants to do it again...What a ****ing coincidence! Morales: He has recently lost to Barrera 3 ****ing months before he kicked Pacquiao's ass...Think about that...After kicking Manny's ass he loses to Zahir Raheem ...Then Pac beats him...Obviously the once great fighter in Morales was spent..Who the **** goes to war with Barrera, loses, goes to war with pac, wins, and loses to Zahir? Morales loses to Pacquiao then arguably loses to David Diaz. Mosley: ...Roach said Mosley was too good to fight. He siad Mosley needed to come down to 142 if he even wanted to think of fighting Pac...Mosley said he'd be willing to go to 140..You heard crickets from pac's camp..It wasn't untill Mayweather ****ed up Mosley and Mosley looked like dog **** against shitty Mora that they decided to fight the obviously shell of what once was Mosley. Margarito: What else can be said about him. Mosley ****ed the **** out of him. Hasn't been the same fighter and it was obvious. Cotto: Got ****ed by Margarito, and then looks less than stellar against Clottey...Pac calls Arum and tells him to make the fight anyway. De La Hoya: Trained by Roach for Mayweather. No one in the public knew how deteriorated he had become...Ortiz ****ed up Oscar in sparring. Roach knew Oscar was spent, he said so himself, then the catchweight and stipulations and the IV... etc etc etc... You can break down and dissect any resume, but Pacquiao's is ridiculous.
.lmfao.... Only thing ridiculous is the amount off time you took to discredit a fighter... Looker I said it's easy to do this with fighters, thats how toy know you are witnessing a great fighter still active... Peoples do this to accomplishments that are outstanding...
Except I called that fight and you probably was like "omg pac gonna die" before the fight. You can't prove how DLH was feeling that night, Nacho himself said the weight was good, everything was good. DLH didnt make any excuses after the fight, only after he heard all the excuses he decided to roll with it. What I can prove was Pac moved up 12lbs, DLH moved down 3lbs from their last fights. DLH was a huge favourite, Pac won. All other stuff is just unproven opinion.
The highlited part means nothing....you can prove it according to you, but still, it means nothing.... I am not the person who can prove you wrong, but Roach, who happens to be Pac's trainer, can tell you that what you are trying to prove means nothing.... He saw the marks on Hoya's vains.... he knew the effects of losing those extra pounds and that is a fact.... your's is just a theory.... Regarding calling the fight,... that's irrelevant...seems to be that 95% or more were wrong.... Roach was the one who saw that happening since he was at Hoya's corner... You and I and the rest of people here didn't see that... we never called it.... we never expected it.....because we never thought that Hoya was going to fight Pac in the first place.
How about Pacquiao weighing more on fight night? :think Don't pretend to be a ****** man...Use common sense.