Jimmy Ellis vs. Jerry Quarry

He should have been,but there isn't a whole lot you can do about bad judging.Not a whole lot he could have done against Quarry besides not get knocked down.Flat out beat his behind both times.

 

Yeah, I wasn't so sure about it being his last, but my point was that he was at the end of his career...

I should have remembered it was the Ali rematch.

 

This might not sit well with you, Jow, but I had Ellis up in their fight. Patterson was just so tentative for most of the contest. I can see how some might give it to Floyd based on damage done, but on rounds I thought Ellis nipped it.

 

Who landed more punches, though? Total number of punches connected should be the chief criteria for selecting a winner, followed by consideration of the hardness of blows, ring generalship, who did the most damage in each round, etc.

Even if Floyd looked tentative, he may still have connected with more clean blows than Ellis.

I haven't watched this fight yet, so I'm not picking a winner. More later.

 

I scored it 8 rounds for Patterson, 4 even, and 3 for Ellis.

Ellis started well, but got his nose broke i think in the 2nd round.

Patterson was more assertive, more physical, won most the exchanges, and made it his fight.

 

I've always shared that view as well, as unpopular as it may be. Typically, Patterson finished strong in the last minute or thirty seconds of every round, but he often allowed Ellis to outwork him in the first two minutes or so of each round.

I do believe Patterson should've won at least one of his fights with Quarry, however.

 

I agree, that is unfair.

As "paper" champs go, Ellis was one of the better ones. Unlike a lot of other paper champs, he earned his share of the title by winning a tourney and beating a succession of ranked fighters.

 

He should have won both Quarry fights, in my opinion. Especially since it was decided on rounds.

 

when I look at the career of Quarry he kind of reminds me of the Foreman career but not as accomplished or well managed, Quarry first managed by his father was put in with the best. in the Ellis fight he was not a prime Quarry, he was physically strong and young but still had much to learn by the Mac Foster,Lyle,Shavers fights he knew what he had to do ...he had to utilize his strengths Power and chin and balls....Frazier and Ali were a bit too fast and a notch up and much better managed but Quarry could fight the bangers and his chin neutralized there power, Frazier was a bit more vulnerable but made it up with tremendous heart and firepower, Ali was also a slow,big punching Giant killer with his own kit of tricks......The Ellis fight was not a prime Quarry but speed was not something Jerry thrived on in the opposite corner.

 

the quarry love in this forum kinda gets me a bit choked up