is what the referee says supposed to be law when it comes to scorecards? example - Fighter A shoves Fighter B onto canvas. Referee believes it was a punch that caused the falling and counts it as a KD. Are the judges supposed to deduct a point from Fighter B because the ref said so even if they knew it was just a shove?
As far as I know, if the ref rules a knockdown than its a knockdown. If the ref rules it a slip than its a slip. I don't know if judges are reauired by the rules to score the round 10-8. I think they would. Why else is the ref's rulling be so important?
Ref's word is final. Example being that when Mosley pushed Pacquaio over and Bayless got it wrong, the judges were still obligated to give an additional point to Mosley. (or deduct one from Pacquaio dependant on how you'd scored the round to that point.
You bring up a good point and read my mind. This was the fight I had in mind when making this thread. Two of the judges did not follow Bayless' ruling in the fight. Two official scorecards read it as 120 for pacquiao while many people in press row honored Bayless' call and had it 119.
Impossible. The knockdown ruling is a deduction. Pacquiao's ceiling is 9 points if they are respecting the referee's ruling.
And if they thought that Pacquiao clearly won the round(and he did iirc)? A KD is not considered a deduction as would be a penalty. If both guys had been KD'd. What then? It cannot be 9-9, which is impossible, without a deduction. So as improbable as it sounds, it may be the only explanation. Either that or they disregarded he referee's ruling.
If both score KDs then it becomes scored like a regular round with no KDs at all. If only one fighter scores a KD it's impossible to be 10-10.
And it is all relative to each other. Highly improbable but theoretically not impossible? Although it would be an extreme case. 10-9 with a KD has been done... But I've never seen a 10-10. I guess it could be 1 step further on that ladder. I'm not claiming to know this for a fact. Just trying to come up with some sort of explanation.
I'm almost positive you can't even up a round at 10-10 if you're the only fighter knocked down in that round.
It was ruled a knockdown so Pac can't have won that round. It's not an automatic 10-8 though, the correct score would be 10-9 Mosley since Pac won the round clearly but was dropped (according to the ref).