Condit's performance was everything that's wrong with MMA.

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by horst, Feb 4, 2012.



  1. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a smart perfromence even if it was a bit boring. He's hardly gonna let Diaz punch him in the face just to make an excitng fight which he would almost certainly lose.
     
  2. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    :rofl

    Personally, I reckon the longer that fight went on, the worse of a time Diaz was going to have. He was getting slower and slower, getting outstruck, and becoming more and more of a stationary target. And Condit didn't look like he was running out of gas any time soon.

    Plus, although neither guy landed anything huge, Condit looked more likely to land flush power shots than Diaz did. Diaz couldn't get CC to stand still in front of him, and thus, couldn't do **** with him.

    :hat
     
  3. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Condit:

    * Was busier.

    * Threw more strikes.

    * Landed more strikes.

    * Landed a higher percentage of strikes.

    * Threw a greater variety of strikes.

    * Showed more technical skill.

    * Showed more octagon intelligence.

    * Fought his fight instead of his opponent's fight.

    * Was looking like the fresher fighter at the final bell.

    * And busted up Diaz' face while taking virtually no damage himself.

    :hat
     
  4. Nuke

    Nuke Full Length Member Full Member

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    Yea but Diaz ran stright in and blocked everything with his face and legs. Shouldn't he have won?
     
  5. Nuke

    Nuke Full Length Member Full Member

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    Carlos SO outclassed Diaz that Diaz's one claim to fame at being the best conditioned fighter in mma was proven wrong too. Carlos was as fresh as he was at the opening bell. Diaz was very much flat-footed by the end.
     
  6. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    i actually agree with the title..your post was a big long and i'm tired, but i think i agree with most of what i skimmed...odd though, that i thought you were an edgar backer if memory serves me right, and i feel he fights the same way
     
  7. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Hmm weird.

    I found the fight entertaining.

    And Condit did what he knew will bring him the win.

    I mean, if he knew he can take a guy out he did, remember the knockout of Dan Hardy?
     
  8. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    and this is why people still talk about pride...trying to finish someone was the most highly weighted part of the scoring system...this was just tap tap run...he was so so so negative
     
  9. horst

    horst Guest

    You remember wrongly mate. I'm not an Edgar backer at all, never have been.
     
  10. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Where you at, Popkins?

    Seriously, that was only the 2nd time Condit has won a fight by decision. Condit has 28 victories, and has finished his opponent inside the distance 26 times. It is insane that you are calling this guy out for not wanting to stop his opponent.
     
  11. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    my mistake, sorry bout that....but yes, i agree with your post
     
  12. horst

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    This is completely irrelevant. Your point would make sense if I was criticizing Carlos Condit's ability or criticizing his whole career - which I'm not. I'm criticizing his approach to one fight, which is an approach I don't believe real fighters should ever utilize.
     
  13. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    well...he said "Condit's perfomance" meaning, they way he fought THIS fight...not simply"Condit"
     
  14. horst

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    I will re-post in an attempt to explain my p-o-v further, as too many people still making mongtarded posts here:





    I'm not going to continue to argue with all these Condit apologists, all I'll say on this thread is that in my opinion (and it has always been my opinion) is that fighters should fight with the main purpose of finishing the fight, whatever way that may be,
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    When guys don't fight with this mentality, and fight with the main purpose of winning on points through engaging as little as possible, the sport suffers.

    I notice that not one of the aforementioned Condit apologists bothered to even touch this post:

    People can try vainly to label me as someone who craves violence (utter, utter nonsense if you look at my posting history) or someone who wants to change the scoring system (which I am, but this has nothing to do with this issue because under the system I propose Condit would still have won this fight anyway), but all I am is someone who believes in the warrior mentality and who holds the principles of combat sports dear. When Junior dos Santos beat Roy Nelson on points, I didn't complain, because Cigano worked towards a stoppage the whole fight but was simply unable to get one, and when the final bell went he was an incidental points winner.
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    You guys can pay your $60 to watch another one of these hit-n-run amateur-boxing style non-events, next time I'll stick to watching a dvd of a real fighter like Fedor, Penn, Jones or Shogun.
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I was not impressed with Condits unwillingness to engage BUT logically I can't blame him anymore than Diaz. Diaz did not know what to do other than whine. Diaz never had the footwork to stop Diaz spinning him around continously. He never had the kicks to beat up his legs and he never had the wrestling to take the fight into a different dimension.

    It's clear he may have had the jits to do something but we never got to see it because he didn't know how to take the fight into that area.