Should Calzaghe Try 50-0 If He Gets Past Hopkins?

:thumbsup Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

These are the sort of fights I'd have like to see him chase 3 years ago. I'd have liked to see him get some of these fights after the Mitchell win, instead he went undefeated against easy opponents until Lacy where he finally had the platform to show how good he really is.

 

:rofl :rofl :rofl

That is absolutely ****ing ridiculous.

 

Just because you're undefeated, doesn't mean you are COMPLETE.

JC doesn't have ANYWHERE NEAR the defense of Floyd
JC doesn't have the STRAIGHT punching of Floyd
JC doesn't have the RESUME of Floyd
JC doesn't have the YOUTH of Floyd

I hate Floyd, but your statement is laughable. Being undefeated doesn't make you "the best" or "complete".

In the end, if JC fought the quality of opposition that many other fighters have fought, he wouldn't be undefeated.

He is going for "big fights" finally, going after a 43 year old right at the end of his career, and then probably a dilusional RJJ.

If JC fought RJJ 6 years ago, he would've maybe won 3 or 4 rounds. If he fought Roy in 1997, he wouldn't have won a single round, and probably would've been knocked out.

JC had his chance to prove he was an "all-time great". Fighters prove that IN THEIR PRIME. In many of JC's prime years (1997-2006), he was fighting nobodies. Now, he's trying to pad his resume with big names, who he knows are way over the hill.

Let JC go play with his kids. He earned it. He was a great fighter and made good money.

But don't bull**** with this "most complete fighter" stuff. By no means is he "the best". You don't become the best with a resume like his.

 

One thing you can't take away from Joe is that he is an exciting fighter watch. I can't say the same about Floyd.

 

Ricardo Mayorga is a more exciting fighter to watch than JC, but Floyd is still better.

 

It's subjective mate. If you think Floyd is better, fine. I don't. Who cares.

If Calzaghe was American and Floyd was English it would be a totally different story.

 

That is a very interesting motivational boost, to look past Hopkins and to the nice looking number 50 win in a row so that he can get pretty confident about his 49th fight. Don't know if that ever has been tried, to look beyond your toughest fight to increase your chance of actually doing it.

 

Don't pull the "Country Card" with me. I thought Lennox Lewis was better than any American fighter at the time, even though he was British.

In the meantime, if Calzaghe had the RESUME of Floyd, it would be a different story.

I don't even think it's opinion here. If you think Calzaghe is a better fighter, based upon his skills exhibited in the ring, record, experiences, titles, and overall resume, I think you're crazy.

Isn't it obvious who the best fighter in the world is right now? I mean Floyd is an annoying loud-mouth, who I'd love to see get knocked out, but the thruth is that he's the best. period.

 

Don't agree.

Only a complete turkey head would be unable to appreciate the talent that Mayweather has. OK, not the most exciting fighter in the world, but still the best by a country mile.

Calzaghe is an excellent fighter, one of my favourites, but I must admit that a few mistakes have been made with regard his opponents - i.e. beating Chris Eubank was an excellent achievement, but how many of those defences were against better fighters than Chris? Not many IMO. This is not to disparage Joe, merely to express my frustration that his resume is not as complete as it perhaps should be.

I believe he had/has it in him to have defeated those Americans such as Johnson, Tarver, RJJ etc, fights which didn't happen - whether the fault lies with him or his promoter is open to debate. Us Brits all know that Frank Warren hates his guys fighting in America, hates unification etc.

You only have to look at Ricky Hatton's profile post Tszyu - went through the roof, well past Calzaghe, who was in front of Hatton at the time.

You are correct that British fighters have a lower profile, but we need to get our house in order instead of whinging. We have a lot of talent in our country, and need to showcase it worldwide instead of beating bums at York Hall until showing 25-0!

 

You're right!

I mean, I don't honestly believe that JC would've beaten RJJ in his prime, but he should've tried!

That's what the best fighters do...they make the BEST fights, the BIGGEST fights, and take the BIGGEST challenges.

JC took the easy route. He's still great, but he took the easy way.

 

Two Words. Frank Warren.

 

good point :good

 

if you like mindless brawlers that is.

LOLZ arturo gatti is so exciting!!!!!11111one11

 

Joe Calzaghe is the best boxer Britain has produced in God knows how many years, yet if you ask non fight fans, or non sports fans, and nobody will have a ****ing clue who he is!

Yet ask the same people the same question about Ricky Hatton, they will answer one of the following:

1. That one with silly shorts
2. The one everyone goes to watch
3. The fat kid who is always funny on sky sports news

That proves my point - and the other person who mentioned Frank Warren. If Joe had been with say, Dennis Hobson, his profile amongst fans of other sports or non sports fans would have been much higher, as he gets the fighters big fights!

I have read Joe's book, and there is a tinge of bitterness about this, but he still looks at Warren through rose tinted glasses. He had an offer to work with Gillette, but turned it down for some reason - yet complains about not getting the big pay days that Ricky has!

There is no doubt that Warren is an excellent promoter to a certain level - getting a title shot, but once that is over with, he has to go. No unification, no fights abroad, no superfights.