who was greater Wilfred Benitez or James Toney

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  1. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    benitez champion at 17 beat cervantes,duran,palomino,hope and gave leonard a fight.toney beat jirov,mccallum,nunn,barkley and made a decent assault on the heavyweight division.benitez' brilliant flame burnt out by the time he was 24,but toney had a number of questionable decisions some went his way others didnt.should be a tough call who gets your vote
     
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  2. Piffer

    Piffer ****** KIT KAT Full Member

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  3. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    toney was very unlucky at heavyweight.ruiz rahman and peter 1 were 3 fights he won in my eyes but they ****ed up the decisions
     
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  4. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very though call indeed, but though Toney obviously wins in the longevity departement, I rate Benitez' best opponents and the way he dealt with them a little higher. I mean he really dominated Duran IMO, and Duran's obviously an ATG.
    If forced to pick, i'll go with Benitez, but Toney when he was at his best will always be one of my favourites.
     
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  5. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    toney is one of my favorites too,career collection well worth buying:good
     
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  6. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    A tough one, though I went for Benitez, but wouldnt complain about it going the other way
     
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  7. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how dare you mention Toney in the same sentence as Benitez.

    1. Youngest CHAMPION of all time
    2. CHAMPION at 140 (at 17), CHAMPION at 147, TITLIST at 154
    3. Compare what happened when they fought ATGs:

    Benitez beat Cervantez and Duran. Fought close fights with Leonard, Hearns.
    Toney was dominated by RJJ.


    Longevity doesnt mean **** when you dont do anything for a 10 yr span.
     
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  8. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no one ****ed up the RUiz decision, Toney ****ed up by cheating. The Rahman fight Toney got a gift draw, and Peter I was the correct decision. YOu cant win rounds when youre getting thrown back with every punch.
     
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  9. Still~style

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    you have a lot of child rage in most of your posts.
     
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  10. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    stick to the facts holmes...what did I say that was untrue?
     
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  11. michael 901

    michael 901 His ass is tired Full Member

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    you would say that wouldn't you.i had hearns beating benitez by 8 or 9 points
     
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  12. Still~style

    Still~style Active Member Full Member

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    nothing you just seem very very concerned with legacy.
     
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  13. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney.
     
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  14. Jack

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    Toney has had a longer career but still hasn't achieved as much as Benitez.

    On natural ability, Benitez and on achievements, Benitez.
     
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  15. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well, what else determines greatness better than your legacy?
     
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