What IF Post-Prison Mikey Tyson cameback NOW?? - TIME WARP!!!

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  1. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    BUT - i said 1995 Tyson comes back NOW in 2012 And fights WALDO in 2019, to keep teh timescale right.

    SO it is 2002, 36 year old "Tinkerbell" Tyson getting thrown in with 2019, 43 year old "Cowardly Lion" WALDO in mid-2019. :!:

    Who wins?? :think :think
     
  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To find a version of Tyson who beats Vitali and Wladimir K,you need to go back as far as 1991,imo.
     
  3. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    Stevie m8, do you mean teh best versions of WALDO And VITLAY??

    ANd did you read my post on teh last page m8 And recap yourself on teh first 2 Rounds of VITLAY-GOLFER, before Sander's lard ass gassed??
     
  4. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    can someone please ban this ****ing clown?

    Holmes, Holyfield and Lewis are pussies are they?

    Tyson would beat them all.

    I watched the VK-DC fight, a lot of people underrate the post prison Tyson.
    Tyson would beat both Klits.
    Tyson takes Haye and Adamek out within a few rounds

    People give Tyson **** because of the Holyfield fights, however nobody seems to take into consideration
    a) Holyfield ALWAYS had Tysons number. Holyfield based his whole career on beating Tyson and studied his every move AND Holy had the necessary attributes to beat Tyson (Chin, heart, style advantage)
    b) Tyson ran out of stamina in that fight, he didnt train hard because he (like the rest of the world) believed Holyfield was old and shot and this fight wouldnt last very long.
    c) THAT Holyfield is leagues above the guys fighting today.
     
  5. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1991 Mike beats either brother, based on styles, and because he retained the key nuances in his attack to deliver them. He'd come in at an angle, which takes him off center, and before getting tied up, his fast hands would get off hard body shots. When he came upstairs afterwards, he'd have a good chance of clipping either and ending it clean then. Basically, I don't see Ruddock Tyson being bullied up close or neutered on the outside.

    Post prison, he became a straight lines attacker. There is no way he'd avoid the jab of either. When he got close and started to load up, as was his custom in decline, he'd just get clutched. Then he'd foul, and then he'd get smothered worse.


    Wlad against Lewis Tyson? It the same mismatch. Lewis had hurt his right hand: Wlad would find the shot Tyson an open enough target to just attack, and he ends it early. Five rounds, probably.
     
  6. Azzer85

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    Agree with most of what you said, but how would Wlad react, with the right hand that Tyson hit Holyfield with in the first round?

    And Would Wlad be able to fight the kind of fight Holyfield did?
     
  7. TAC602

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    How would Wlad react to the right hand Tyson hit the White Buffalo with? :rofl
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    Tyson '96 walks down Vitali '12 no doubt and he probably gives any version of Wlad a heart attack in the ring walks so that be an NC
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson never hurt Holyfield in both fights and was man handled like a child, vlad would almost certainly defeat him
     
  10. TAC602

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    Would Wlad pull a Golota?

    I'm sorry, the guy is a weenie compared to Big Bro.
     
  11. MagnaNasakki

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    The Tyson of the Lewis fight wouldn't land that right hand. I'd bet quite a bit of money on it.

    If he did, Wlad would either (a) Panic like against Peter and be dropped, or (b)Clutch like a Burmese python and ride the round out in the clinch. Shot Tyson wouldn't be able to put more punches together, and would be back to trying to load up on the outside.

    Vitali would react to the right hand the same way he reacted when hit by everything other big puncher he's fought; His eyes would widen, he'd start backing up, and when he got charged, he'd fight back. Hard. How Tyson handles that mentally is the big question. An earlier version of Mike probably goes to the body and gets back to trying to make his attack work to break down a big opponent. Post Prison Tyson probably gets more frustrated and intimidated the more he gets hit back and the more shots he lands without having a breakthrough.

    I give a 1996 Tyson a WAY better shot against Wlad than I do against Vitali, though I'd still pick Wlad- His jab is simply amazing, and there is no walking through it. No fighter in history can walk through that jab, you HAVE to pass it, and if you don't pass it well, you're getting grabbed. If you try to keep moving forward into it, then comes the right hand, and then comes the knockout. Pre-prison Tyson passed punches as good as any heavyweight in history, and he made the most of things when he got in on taller outfighting opponents.

    Post-Prison Tyson was complacent in clinches(When he wasn't getting himself disqualified), loaded up on hooks and uppercuts rather than jabbing and pivoting, and charged instead of zagging his way in, like he did in his masterpiece against Tyrell Biggs.

    Post Prison Tyson was still lethal, but its the evaporation of his defense and his discipline that would screw him against a great heavyweight. He became easy to hit and had a period there were he was about as stable in the ring as Andrew Golota.

    He still beats the rest until he's absolutely shot to pieces.
     
  12. Wass1985

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    Load of bull****, studying a fighter doesn't mean one little bit that your going to beat him. Excuses of undertraining are just a myth, Tyson was in great shape for that fight. True, Holyfield was a better fighter than the klitschkos but I don't think he was at the time of defeating Tyson
     
  13. Azzer85

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    You obviously dont know **** about boxing

    Tommy brooks who trained both holyfield and tyson stated Tyson only trained for 2 weeks for the Holyfield fight.

    Compare the shape he came in against Holyfield 1 and then compare his physique in holyfield 2
     
  14. Azzer85

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    Have you actually seen the fight?

    i dont think you have

    maybe you should the first round again
     
  15. sauhund II

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    Noob.

    Tyson was NOT in great shape for the Holy fight........Tyson was never ever able to go 12 full hard rounds after prison. Fact. The closest he came was in the Holy rematch but he was mentally done .

    Boxing is 80 % mental and 20% physical at that level.

    Tyson trained barely THREE weeks for that fight , was partying in New York and had to go to court for the Rooney lawsuit. Great shape my ass, lol, while Holyfield had a dedicated 8 week training camp with a strategie to win while Team Tyson just thought Mike would walk straight in and lay out Holy, the corner alone, absolute morons.

    It looks like you never saw the fight in its entity.............because Tyson DID hurt Holyfield with a body/uppercut combo towards the end of the round which certainly helped Evander to recover IMO he would have been in serious trouble if the combo would have landed at the beginning of the round.

    Coincidently the Showtime anouncers ringside saw/mentioned/noticed the same thing.

    I give VK a great shot at beating Tyson at this stage of his career but I cannot see WK survive the first three rounds, if pressed he goes in full panic mode and if he thought the very limited Brewster or Peter hit hard he ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to Tysons hand speed and power even at that eroded version he became after prison.