Maybe not be definition, but all the guys mentioned in this thread adopted a box and move type strategy when fighting Alexis. The point stands because of it imo.
If Arguello beats the Elite, then is because they don't have a chin, and if they don't have a chin then they are not ELITE.... Discussion is over.... you win lol Congrats Originally Posted by Thinman This content is protected SC, I thought you were better than this. "Let me just qualify what I mean by adding this aside - I'd pick Arguello to beat the likes of Hector Camacho and Edwin Viruet. This content is protected Now, I can see that you have made up your mind... Keep it to yourself all the BS,... I mean WTF
Against Chacon he did struggle. He got his timing down eventually and blasted him. Arguello was not completely useless when faced with movement, only he was better when someone took the fight to him. I do think he was brilliant against Hernandez. Didn't I also hear a while ago that supposedly Marcel got the better of that fight?
The question is: If he did struggle with every single boxer he faced and every single style out there, why is he an ATG???
Well, I told you who he isn't beating. Sure, the way I phrased it sounds circular, but if you can get beyond the petty element you're stuck on, you can see the logic of what I was trying to say. Bottom line: Arguello will struggle with elite boxer-movers. :good
He could equalise fighters with his power. Never proved it against an A-grade boxer-mover in their prime though. You're free to believe that he could Thinman. But you have no proof for it. :good
Not only that, he would struggle with a sitting duck.... Didn't I give you examples of that????? I mean... Chacon, and Limon qualify....right???? Hernandez and co....
NO, I don't.... you have the proof that he could not do well, and that's enough.... nobody needs a proof... your word is enough....
I haven't said he'd lose to every top boxer-mover/evasive negative stylist and actually gave examples where he showed he could find his way into the fight. But those are the fights that give him more hassle. The reason he's great is because I'd pick him to smash pretty much every aggressive fighter between 127-130lbs that ever lived. You don't have to be a perfect fighter to be 'great', and Arguello amassed a strong enough resume, longevity, accomplishment and displayed some of the finest composite punching technique ever seen. That's why he was great. He's far greater than Floyd Mayweather, who I consider an awful matchup for Arguello.
Chacon fought an angles and footwork kind of fight against Arguello, he went back to his old featherweight style for that bout. You know you have issues with mobility when cement footed front-foot fighters like Jose Luis Ramirez are giving you problems by using their feet. It doesn't stop him from being a great fighter though.He won most of these fights after all.