all this b...**** about jeffries and dempsey being racist

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by junior-soprano, Mar 9, 2012.


  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks Vic...I left out "say what the **** I wanna say" Mayweather as well...
     
  3. BareKnuckleBox

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    Thank you.
    Sick of idiots calling them racists.
     
  4. highguard

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  5. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Makes these people feel NOBLE,and above us....Racism is a TWO way street, but some get a FREE pass...Cheers :good
     
  6. McGrain

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    Of course Jeffries was racist. But racism was normal for his time. But it's not "wrong" to call a racists a racist just because he was a racist a long time ago. All the slave owners were racists of the worst kind, you don't excuse them because it was accepted in his culture that blacks were de-humanised, you just try and understand that this was the case.
     
  7. Legend X

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    Professional boxers get paid to hit each other in the head. They are athletes, fighters.
    It's bemusing the amount of discussion there is on their moral or political beliefs.

    Ironically, to the mainstream Muhammad Ali has become a symbol of racial equality, racial harmony and justice etc. But some of the quotes attributed to him from the 1960s and 70s are some of the most vile racist quotes ever attributed to any fighter. And I don't even think that can be 'excused' for being in step with the times.
    But, hey, the whole world is phoney.
     
  8. bodhi

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    Nah, there is a difference. Everybody during the holocaust knew what they were doing was wrong. Evidence, they tried to hide it, there are about no documents, no orders or anything. On the other hand the people in the 19th century and earlier in most parts of the US "knew" whites were superior to blacks. There´s quite a difference between those two. The nazis knew they were doing wrong, the racists back then didn´t - which doesn´t make their behaviour any better though.
     
  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now I already regret answering your other post.
     
  10. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Did Hitler think the holocaust was wrong ?
     
  11. McGrain

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  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah, he thought he was right but he knew that everybody else would think it was wrong.
     
  13. Legend X

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    Yeah ..... apart from all those who thought it was right. :lol:
     
  14. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this.....it´s less disturbing.....but.....

    it´s still racism...agreed....

    agreed...

    I got what you´re saying.....definitely......but I think that the neonazis from today also "know" they are "right"...works that way in their minds.....I just read one day some posts in that forum Stormfront, someone posted in the Lounge, and they pretty much talk like if what they are doing is simply the most normal and right thing in the world :......and many of them were born and raised in families with that type of mentality....
    Well.....that´s my view anyway.....and works both ways, for white racists and black racists....
     
  15. Ren

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    Jack wasntracist. Racism implies actively being racist. He only passively allowed racism to happen by choosing not to get involved by NOT protesting his managers aim to disclude black opponents.


    He was a child of his times, in that he'd let racism from others happen without protesting. For instance, I am guessing he'd watch a lynching of a black, enjoy the free drinks on hand and would not try and stop it, but he wouldnt takean active part in the actual lynching himself.

    Much like he was happy to accept when he was told he shouldnt fight blacks, he was ready to accept the status quo of white race hat, but he wouldnt actually go out there and stop blacks fighting whites on hisown accord.

    Obviously today he'd be in court for either act (which is obvoiously the legit and normal view).