How I would prepare Cotto to fight Mayweather. (Technical thread)

You may be right,but I think at best that would still achieve a five point defeat at best.
I like Cotto but I just can't see a way here.

 

Shane is not Cotto.

Cotto is more fluid than Shane, and he has a better jab.

Shane has his own strengths, but counterpunching isn't one of them, at least not in the last several years.

Cotto can counter, and he's a better mover than Shane. Cotto is also younger, and I think he's a better combination puncher.

Shane is not a boxer. He's more of a fast, athletic, power brawler.

Cotto is very well balanced, and his jab is going to be the key for him to win this fight.

Mayweather can't block everything, especially if he's coming foward because Cotto WILL fire back, and the size difference isn't so much that none of the punches are going to hit Mayweather if Mayweather decides to be the aggressor.

Man, I just think it's a stupid plan.

If Cotto runs, then at that point, you really got no choice, but at the same time, you just press him enough to back him up, but without really doing anything.

Lots of feints.

Long range punches. Don't go after Cotto unless he's hurt. Cotto is somewhat explosive with his combination punching.

Man, I would keep it in the center of the ring and try to make Cotto rush me.

As far as Ortiz is concerned, the way that fight ended left too many questions...it was too short a fight.

We can only speculate what would happen. I don't think anyone should use this fight in order to predict another fight unless it's a rematch with Ortiz.

 

Would you advise Cotto to fight southpaw in this fight some?

 

:rofl:roflatsch

:yep

 

Recheck your premises. As a trainer you dont reinvent a fighter in one fight. Instead you make him more effective at what he does well.

Cottos stamina has always been suspect. If anything you want him to fight in quick bursts and retreat. Mostly countering and then back out the pocket. He shown some success at this. I do agree about his lack of intensity in training. And I suspect this is whats always held him back from being elite. The kids lazy.

Mayweather isnt Margarito. If it becomes a toe/angle battle. Even the flatfooted version of mayweather will beat him to death. And hell probably fall victim to the check hook.

The main point here is not to let mayweather lean on his neck after clinches (mayweather is NOTORIOUS for this). Fight dirty. Pushing, low blows, headbutts. If there close early, Cotto needs to body punch. From round 1 before the effect of those right hand leads accumalate. Cotto also busts up rather easy. So urgency is needed.

These are your best two points. As I and Im sure others have noticed mayweathers leaping hooks that sometimes throw him off balance. Ive mainly noticed it with the left rather than the right.

** The leaping hook usually misses when the opponent is directly in front of mw slightly out of range and he misjudges his speed in distance.

The jab also. But mayweather does counter over jabs pretty well. And cotto doesnt have the height of delahoya to keep him from coming over the top. Also cotto doesnt have the patience to maintain this over a long fight in which his opponent has more will/skill. Know your fighter.


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This is rubbish. General boxing technique being disguised as strategy.
he will eat right hands.. His fients are not up to par for this.

Punching to the hips.. Good point and Good thread.

 

Yes, but only if he manages to get Floyd against the ropes.

Then he should switch it up and show Floyd different angles, and different punches.

Cotto has shown this capability, like against Judah for instance where he did this.

It would be wise to do it again, but the question is, can he get Mayweather against the ropes?

 

I'd say you're having a far more positive impact on the world by teaching kids the fundamentals.Much as I enjoy your posts,I find it far more admirable that you're teaching kids to box.It's quite a thing to be able to say for someone your age.:good
You don't even want to know what I was doing at 19!atsch
It certainly wasn't positive.:nono

 

Good OP. However, Cotto won't win and really doesn't have a chance. Floyd is all wrong for him.

 

How many times have that been said. This is BOXING, not a pick the best car based on a brochure.

 

Boyfriend mad at you??? What happened? Did he found out it was you that gave him herpes????

Damn dude that sucks, you have to be

careful, when the homies gang bang your mom, they use condoms.... It's safer that way :good You should practice safe sex too. Just trying to help you out bro.

 

Love this thread..

I don't know about Money being the aggressor though, that is one thing that can throw a wrench in the plan....

 

Good read brotha. Only things I would do differently is use alot of feints which seems to be a forgotten art. Erik Morales in his prime was successful vs Floyd in sparring I've never seen Cotto use many feints. And instead of defending after he launches his offense I would have Cotto throwing very short, compact punches so he can throw in combination and not leave himself open so much. Basically if he fought Floyd like he fought Mosley by using angles and quick rapid fire combos Cotto does have a good chance of upsetting. That would work great in the center of the ring. If Floyd was against the ropes I think Cotto should go to his roots by body punching, but I'd also have Miguel use some tricks up his sleeve like learning to use his own check left hook. Floyd is master at countering left jabs and right hands, but how will he do vs a feint followed by a check left hook or lead right? It would be nice to see Cotto try to box off the backfoot instead of the front and I do think he is capable of. If Miguel fights confident and relaxed off the jab like he's winning the fight and in control it might force Floyd to come forward at some point. Floyd might win the fight, but Cotto the fans and the event. Confidence is the key for Cotto.

 

Well thought out post TS. :good

The problem I see for Cotto is, he likes to use plenty of movement it seems nowadays (even more so than usual). Now, this is very, very effective against someone who fights in straight lines, and will literally follow you off the edge of a cliff to try hit you (Margarito)...you can just bring someone like that on to shots, then back pedal/regain composure. However, Mayweather is excellent at cutting the ring off with minimal movement/wasted energy on his part. This spells trouble for Cotto if he is to fight this way, and we assume Mayweather is going to continue his current fighting style. Mayweather, whilst conserving energy can make his opponent waste energy unnecessarily. Like someone mentioned, Cotto can telegraph certain punches before he throws them, and this may not be so obvious inside the ring to certain opponents...but when up against guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao, they will click on to this straight away.

This is how I see Mayweather winning. Almost immediately, Mayweather will try to show his strength and stand his ground, using Cotto's jab to time his right hand. He will once again show minimum foot movement, but backpedaling when necessary. He will try to get Cotto to start showing more movement rather than have Cotto trying to trade punches with him. Once Mayweather has Cotto in this position, he will cut the ring off (I don't believe Cotto will completely backpedal, I expect him to show some really good lateral movement but I'll get into that)...he will be looking for Cotto to telegraph shots, he will be looking for and timing Cotto as he resets. Expect Mayweather to catch Cotto when Cotto is not expecting...for example, when he could usually take his time with certain opponents, expect Mayweather to jump on him and catch him with a stinging shot or two. I can see Mayweather catching Cotto with the kind of shots he caught Mosley with, clean, head-snapping right hands. I don't see a stoppage, but I see Mayweather taking an impressive UD.

Now for Cotto.

I think Cotto can have some success in this bout, mainly due to two things. It seems Mayweather wants to be impressive in the ring, and Cotto is on a massive high it seems (he is back in love with the sport).

Now for Cotto to have success IMO, he can't give too much ground to Mayweather early...he needs to stick in the middle circle for as long as possible, showing plenty of lateral movement (he needs to fight in circles conserving plenty of energy if possible). He needs to stick that jab out, double and triple it like the TS said, but also mix it up...stick a powerful jab in Mayweather's face, but immediately following it up with a right hand in which he pivots on. Diaz has been using plenty of amateur foot drills it seems, and his footwork was excellent against Margarito, whether Margarito was plodding or not. He needs to use the lateral movement he showed against Margarito, and use it to place him in an attacking position. Like my example above, shoot a stiff jab off, pivot on the right hand (something Mayweather may not expect)...then get a second phase in immediately, whether it be another 1-2, switching from head to body, or placing himself in a position to get his left hook to the body/head on target.

He can't become predictable, fighting the way he did against Margarito was impressive, but it was mainly based off one main gameplan. Show Margarito movement, tag him with combinations, then reset self (impressive none the less). He shouldn't take too long to reset himself (although he has always done this) he shouldn't be admiring his work because before he knows it, he has been hit with a straight right-left hook.


Intriguing bout IMO, one I have been looking forward to for a while. I see a Mayweather UD though. Two of my favourite boxers, can't wait :good

 

The thing is, Cotto is fighting a man thats been fighting with his brains in control for over 15 years. Cotto is somewhat of a thinking fighter also but on a slower time. When he thinks of a move, Mayweather will be one step ahead. He cant win the chess match. When he realizes that he can't execute like that he will revert back to letting his muscle reflex memories control how he fights, making him more predictible and setting him up for a rout.