Froch says he has a better legacy then cazaghe

This I agree with you. My disagreement with you occurred here:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420713&postcount=27

I disagreed with this.

Calzaghe is a come forward fighter who liked to fight at mid range and use his good handspeed with solid workrate to outwork his opponent.

Froch is a come forward fighter who liked to fight at mid range and use his power to grind down his opponent.

When these two styles clash it results in an exciting fight because both are positive styles. Hence why I say, Froch would have had a chance vs Calzaghe because both fighters compliment each others style.

Then I saw your reasoning to why you think Froch would have no chance vs Calzaghe, and disagreed once more:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420713&postcount=27

Just because Froch struggled with Ward doesnt mean he would struggle with Joe Calzaghe, and I already explained this thoroughly.

Froch likes to fight at mid range. If you examined Ward vs Froch you should have seen the following:-

Ward vs Froch, Ward didnt like to fight at midrange and either stayed out of range or was up close. Not giving Froch the room to tee off.

Calzaghe would have given Froch the room to tee off, simply because that is the way Calzaghe fought.

So for you to bring Ward vs Froch into the equation was a flawed inclusion because Ward's style doesnt compliment Froch, but Calzaghe's style does compliment Froch.

so your point here:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

Is invalid.

Just because Ward dominated Froch, doesnt mean Calzaghe would.

If that was the case, you would expect Cotto to dominate Margarito more than Mosley. But we know Mosley won every round vs Margarito, and Cotto lost many rounds to Margarito, despite Cotto beating Mosley decisively.

So your point made here:-

Is baseless and flawed.

Why did Froch struggle with Ward? - Answer is because Ward never gave Froch that mid range.

And you just stated, Calzaghe would have had a constant relentless attack, this would have given Froch that mid range, hence giving Froch his moment

I never bought in Froch vs Ward, you did. And when you did, we have to compare the stylistic match up so Ward's style being difficult for Froch and Calzaghe's style being complimentary to Froch had to be discussed whether you wanted or not.

Calzaghe not getting tired in the late rounds doesnt mean Froch wont have his moments in a 12 round fight. Calzaghe had one of the greatest stamina I have seen in a fighter, and Froch has also shown he can slug it out for a full 12 rounds in his war's with Pascal and Kessler. Further showing that their styles (Froch and Calzaghe) would have complimented one another nicely.

When you said Calzaghe would beat Froch because Ward beat Froch, I had to school you on the topic, and in short here is the schooling:

Mosley > Margarito > Cotto > Quintana > Williams > Margarito < Mosley
Mosley > Mayorga > Forrest > Mora > Forrest > Mosley

Styles make fights :deal

Another flawed logic. Stances has small significance in this hypothetical match up. You are saying Calzaghe would beat Froch because he is southpaw.

You already stated early on:-

So you must have seen Andre Ward is a switch hitter who likes to switch to southpaw once in a while.

The best punch for an orthadox fighter to land on a southpaw is the lead right hand which Froch does have in his arsenal, and while Calzaghe and Froch like to both slug it out at midrange, Froch will again have a moment to land a lead right hand.

Just because a fighter hasnt beaten any top southpaws doesnt mean he would lose to a southpaw now.

Also since you claim to have seen more of Froch than me, you must have seen Froch vs Dirrell. When Dirrell, who also is a switch hitter, switched to southpaw Froch was landing lead right hands and forced Dirrell to move back into the orthadox stance. And if you see showtime's keys to victory regarding that fight, they state Dirrell should not switch to southpaw regularly, because wise men know the sport and know that a southpaw stance can only be an advantage on some occasions.

Froch would have a better chance with someone who wants to engage in a midrange fight rather than someone who wants to either keep it at distance or keep it close. I have already schooled you on range above.

Froch has the power to earn the respect of any opponent including Calzaghe. Froch has a better chin than Calzaghe, Calzaghe has been floored by a 42 year old BHop, a shot RJJ, Kabery Salem and Byron Mitchell, So ofcouse I think Froch can back Calzaghe up at times during a 12 round fight, unlike you who stated Froch will not have ANY moments in a 12 round fight with Calzaghe.

Calzaghe never had great lateral movement, show me a fight where he showed this.

Calzaghe would out work opponents.

I agree Calzaghe would out throw and outland, but to say Froch wont have his moments is just sucking Calzaghe's dick.

Calzaghe wasnt a master of controlling distance, he was good at it. Tell me what distance Calzaghe would choose against a rangier bigger Carl Froch. Froch would out jab Calzaghe if they fight at range, Calzaghe never had head movement to bob and weave, Calzaghe would throw a barrage of slaps so his opponent becomes confused, dont make **** up.

Watch the fight, Hopkins tried to either keep out of range or keep it on the inside, while Calzaghe tried to make it midrange. Calzaghe never beat Hopkins on the inside, Calzaghe always tried to keep it midrange and try and outwork Hopkins.

I have already explained how, Froch has better range than Calzaghe, and can choose to jab with Calzaghe. If he does this, Calzaghe would be forced to make it into a mid range ******* so he can throw a barrrage of slaps.

I have read all your posts, and I cant agree with you when it comes to these points.

1. Calzaghe would beat Froch because Ward beat Froch
2. Calzaghe would beat Froch more decisively than Ward, because Calzaghe is a better fighter than Ward.

Calzaghe vs Froch would have been a good exciting fight, with both fighters having there moments.

- Mikkell Kessler had his moments vs Calzaghe
- Robin Reid had his moments vs Calzaghe
- Shot RJJ had his moments vs Calzaghe
- 42 year old BHop beat Calzaghe and got robbed
- Byron Mitchell had his moments vs Calzaghe
- Kabery Salem had his moments vs Calzaghe
- Sakio Bika had his moments vs Calzaghe
- Charles Brewer had his moments vs Calzaghe

SO why the **** do you think Carl 'The Cobra' Froch wont have his moments vs Calzaghe.

 

He won't complete it because there is more talent at 168 now then there was when Calzaghe achieved it. Ward, Kessler, Bute, the dirrell bros, are all really good.

 

Neither one of them have any legacy to brag about.

Froch is 200 times more exciting though.

 

realist stuff ever written on this "couldve been" fight. :deal

 

zzzz..... You're just on repeat, I've already explained this to you. Calzaghe is simply a superior fighter to Carl Froch, not only does Froch's style suit Calzaghe, Calzaghe is simply a far superior fighter. I'm not going over this again, re-read my previous post.

You sound like an invalid, 'ohh I schooled you, I'm so clever and funny'.

Let me give you an example, before the Mayweather-Hatton fight, people said that Hatton's constant pressure, inside work, foot speed, body work and angles would cause Mayweather nightmares. After the fight it was acknowledged that not only did Hatton match up well for Mayweather, Mayweather was simply another calibre of fighter, Hatton never had a chance irregardless of the pressure he brought, or his 'style'. It's a similar case here, where you're wrong in that you think Calzaghe matches better for Froch than Ward did, styles make fights, and in this case, you're very wrong.

To quote you, I just 'schooled you' on this topic :deal

Did I state that because Calzaghe was a Southpaw, he'd beat Froch? You have serious problems with your reading and comprehension, you may be dyslexic, you should really have that tested. It remains that Froch has never beaten a top southpaw, that is an important point, because it makes Calzaghe a different proposition to the elite opposition that Froch has faced. Neither Dirrell nor Ward are southpaws, they can switch, but neither are southpaws and you know this. Furthermore, many had Dirrell winning that fight, and he certainly was in the lead going into the later rounds, as I'm sure you watched the fight, I'm sure you know what I'm getting at. Furthermore, please point out when Ward switched to southpaw against Froch for prolonged periods of time?

Yes the lead right is the best punch for an orthodox fighter to land against a southpaw, this doesn't mean Froch will 'have his moments against Calzaghe'. That's ****ing awful logic, and you've shown yourself up again :think

If you're going to criticise Calzaghe's chin on that basis, I can point out that Froch got floored by a shot blown up Jermain Taylor...


Froch would have very little joy against Calzaghe, who can get off first, will outwork him and beat him in exchanges, control distance and range better, and can outlast him. Did you see Froch against Glencoffe Johnson? Many times he couldn't control the range against Johnson, and took some big shots, and before you start with your ******ed nonsense, no I'm not saying Johnson and Calzaghe are similar in styles! I'm pointing out that Froch is not good enough to control the distance against Calzaghe, Joe would have his way with him.

This is the most ******ed comment, where the **** did I say Calzaghe had head movement and would bob and weave? You're delusional beyond belief.

Furthermore, you need to (re)watch Hopkins-Calzaghe, because a lot of Calzaghe's work was on the inside, Hopkins wouldn't let him have the mid-range to work.

Calzaghe never had great lateral movement? Watch his fights with Jeff Lacy and Mikel Kessler.

I've explained why Carl Froch won't 'have his moments' against Calzaghe.

As for your ******ed logic above, you were banging on about how 'styles make fights', then you comparing Carl Froch to BHop, RJJ, Sakio Bika and others. Do you not see the contradiction there? :deal

 

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Bernard Hopkins- Former two-division world champion
Fought Joe Calzaghe on April 19, 2008 and lost by split decision
Fought Roy Jones Jr. May 22, 1993 and lost by unanimous decision

“Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power.”

Lennox Lewis- Former heavyweight champion
"Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think it’ll be a very close fight."

Jeff Lacy- Former IBF super middleweight champion
Fought Joe Calzaghe March 4, 2006 and lost by unanimous decision

“It’s going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and setup a big money fight again with Hopkins!”

Glen Johnson- Former IBF, IBO and Ring Magazine light heavyweight champion
Fought Roy Jones September 25, 2004 and won by KO in 9th round

“Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy’s will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones’ hard-hitting punches make the difference.”

Vernon Forrest - WBC welterweight champion
“Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision.”

Paulie Malignaggi- Former IBF junior welterweight champion.

"It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, but maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision."

Winky Wright- Former world junior middleweight champion

“I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe’s and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think its Calzaghe late in the fight.”

Dan Rafael- ESPN.com

“Although Calzaghe is the favorite, I think Jones' style and speed -- he's still fast -- are going to give him problems. I think it will be a tough, close fight but I'm going with the upset special. I like Jones to pull it out on a close decision.”

Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal

”Jones over Calzaghe. This is a fascinating fight. Jones is still quick and with his awkward style and dangerous punching power is able to freeze very active opponents like Calzaghe. I'm picking Jones by a decision.”

Tim Smith- New York Daily News

“Roy Jones has good power and I think that will offset the volume of punches that Calzaghe throws. Calzaghe has a good chin so I don't see him getting knocked out. I like Jones in a decision.”

Franklin McNeil- Newark Star Ledger
“On paper, Calzaghe should not have much difficulty getting by Jones. Calzaghe is a southpaw, and Jones has had his most difficult outings against non-orthodox fighters. And though each man has quite a few miles on his tires, Jones has logged a bit more. The physical edge goes to Calzaghe, but stylistically Jones’ constant movement could prove to be beneficial. If Jones can control the pace, make Calzaghe miss, score with counter shots and his stamina holds up, he will win. Jones wins by decision.”

Bobby Cassidy- Newsday
“I like Roy Jones in the 11th round TKO. Calzaghe does not have the power to keep Jones honest. I think by the second half of the fight Jones will be picking him a part. Calzaghe looked so good against Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the firepower to slow him down. But Jones has both speed and power. In other fights, Calzaghe has been able to adjust to one of those assets; he won't be able to adjust to both, especially from a fighter like Jones.”

 

I never disagreed with you, Calzaghe is the better fighter than Froch. My disagreement with you, was your flawed logic that was:-

1. Calzaghe would beat Froch because Ward beat Froch

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420713&postcount=27

2. Calzaghe would beat Froch more decisively than Ward, because Calzaghe is a better fighter than Ward.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

3. Froch wont have his moments against Calzaghe.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

And I have schooled you on those three points.

Do you still hold these opinions after I schooled you on the topic, then its because you are not sincere and your fan boyism has deluded you.

This is where the disagreements were.

Why you talking about how I sound, all the stuff I said is backed up and logical while you sound like you got Calzaghe's balls in your mouth.

Hatton vs Mayweather has no revelance to the three points me and you disagreed with, explain how there is revelance.

You are trying to say fights turn out different to how they are anticipated, I think that is common sense. Here we are discussing hypothetical match ups, and me and your disgareement on the three points above that I already schooled you on.

You just showed me that You thought Hatton was going to beat Mayweather and you got proven wrong, that aint schooling thats more of a self pwnage.

Now you are saying, just because a fighter hasnt beaten a southpaw you would pick a southpaw to beat that fighter?

Flawed logic once again.

1. Froch and Calzaghe are two come forward fighters.

2 When a southpaw and orthadox fight both come forward, it gets rough, the southpaws right leg gets caught with the orthadox's left leg.

3. Head collisions occur

4. Southpaws are suspect to counter right/lead right hands. Hopkins floored Calzaghe with a lead right hand, so did kabery salem and so did RJJ. Robin Reid was landing right hands on numerous occasions. And Carl Froch has a decent right hand.

So the southpaw vs orthadox match up would only compliment both Calzaghe and Froch hence giving Froch more moments in the fight.

Ward had his gameplan to the tee, his gameplan didnt involve switching to southpaw and you are making this into another discussion. Ward beat Froch by controlling the range. Here is what was said regarding Froch Ward:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/16234673

http://www1.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/7384190/Froch-frustrated-by-defeat

Ward was beating Froch using range, no switch hitting was required.

As for Dirrell:-

Watch this video, from 2:28
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQsXlLgz8OE[/ame]

- Andre Dirrell switches to southpaw
- Froch begins throwing lead right hands
- Andre Dirrell changes back to orthadox knowing Froch has a solid lead right.

Again you are trying to divert this debate away from the 3 points I disagreed with you with, so I will bring it back to the discussion.

Ward nullified Froch's offence. Froch wasnt able to land any punches because Ward never allowed him to.

How would Calzaghe do this, when Calzaghe likes to engage, giving Froch the moment to land lead right hands?

Froch was landing lead right hands on Andre Dirrell who is alot quicker than Calzaghe is.

You lot call 8 pounds to be blown up atsch

I will leave that for seperate post now.

Bottom line, Froch's chin > Calzaghe's chin.

If Byron Mitchell, shot Eubank, Shot RJJ, 42 year old BHop, and Kabery Salem can back Calzaghe up, then Froch can also.

How does this support your three points?

You never said that, I said it.

You told me to explain how Froch will have his moments, and I explained how.

Hopkins was dealing with Calzaghe on the inside. How does this support your three points that I initially disagreed with you on.

Calzaghe never used Lateral movement with Lacy. Calzaghe kept out of range and or was up close with Lacy.

With Kessler, he adapted mid rounds to figure out a range where he can counter.

What you on about lateral movement, you want to see lateral movement watch Hopkins vs Trinidad or Nunn vs Toney.

You say because Calzaghe can outwork out land and has stamina, but all that could be said with,

Calzaghe vs Bika, Reid, Kessler, Hopkins, Shot Jones, and so on. But all those latter fighters had they moments.

Are you going to say that a shot Jones had his moments but Froch wont?

Styles make fights was a schooling I gave you on the following point:-

Just because Froch struggled with Ward, doesnt mean he would struggle with Calzaghe since you claimed this.

As for mentioning Shot Jones Jr, 42 BHop and so on. It just shows you that Calzaghe was not invincible that you are going on about trying to say that Froch wont have his moments in a calzaghe fight is nonsense.

If Sakio Bika and Robin Reid can have his moments against Calzaghe, then what makes you think Froch cant?

 

Knockout artist, **** this essay mode ****. This is where me and you had out disagreement.

I schooled you so hard on the topic, you got put on ***** street and trying to wiggle your way out of it by going essay mode.

This is the three **** points you made, that I disagreed with you:-

1. Calzaghe would beat Froch because Ward beat Froch

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420713&postcount=27

2. Calzaghe would beat Froch more decisively than Ward, because Calzaghe is a better fighter than Ward.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

3. Froch wont have his moments against Calzaghe.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

 

Jermain Taylor wasnt blown up, at 168

1. Taylor was fighting at 160 before hand, and was a career 160 pounder.
2. Taylor had fought above the 160 pound limit many times before Froch
3. Taylor's 2 fights before Froch, and 2 fights after Froch was in the SMW weight class.

So **** you on about with this Taylor was blown up.

 

Once again, you didn't school ****, all you've done is repeat the points you've previously made, that I have already 'schooled you on'. I don't need to type out another long post, as my previous one was comprehensive enough to have covered the points you made.

1. Calzaghe is a superior boxer and fighter than Froch.

2. Froch's style matches up well for Calzaghe.

3. There is no way for Froch to beat Calzaghe, bar a freak incident of luck, he doesn't have the skills or the power.

These are the three points I have made, you can disagree but I think I'm right.

Now for the **** points you've made

1. Because Hopkins, RJJ, Salem, Reid, Mitchell had their moments against Calzaghe, so would Froch...!?

2. The actual abilities of fighters isn't important.

3. You think that Froch would find a southpaw easier to fight.


You've exposed yourself, you keep on mis-reading and ignoring the points I've made, instead repeating the same **** over and over again. It's becoming tedious now, and you're wasting your time. My Mayweather-Hatton point is valid, in that it shows that there are times when people think fighters will match up well against another, it turns out very differently. This is the case here, where you think Froch would be able to have success against Calzaghe due to the styles, you're wrong. What has Jermain Taylor accomplished at 168? Furthermore, where did I state I thought Hatton would beat Mayweather? Once again, re-read my post. You really are stupid beyond belief, it's painful :nono

Now, unless you have any new points to bring to the argument, I suggest you **** off, re-read my posts, and actually try to understand what I've said, instead of just saying 'I schooled you, I schooled you' as though you've actually accomplished something. If you didn't speak like a 15 year old, and completely twist what I say, I might actually take you and your points more seriously :roll:

 

Basically you chickening out.

I dont disagree here.

I dont disagree here either, but Calzaghe's style also matches up well for Froch.

I think Calzaghe would beat Froch, but it wont be an easy fight for Calzaghe.

You think it would be an easy fight because you got Calzaghe's balls in your mouth.

You are saying Froch doesnt have the power?

What do you mean Froch doesnt have the power to hurt Calzaghe?

Byron Mitchell hurt Calzaghe
Past Prime Eubank hurt Calzaghe
Shot RJJ hurt Calzaghe
42 year old BHop floored Calzaghe
Kabery Salem hurt Calzaghe

And what you mean Froch doesnt have skills?

Froch is a amatuer world bronze medalist, he has decent boxing skills.

Robin Reid took prime Calzaghe to a SD.
Charles Brewer won rounds against Calzaghe
Shot RJJ won rounds vs Calzaghe
Sakio Bika won rounds vs Calzaghe
Mikkel Kessler won rounds vs Calzaghe

All this proves, that Froch will have his moments vs Calzaghe :deal

No these are the three points you made:-

1. Calzaghe would beat Froch because Ward beat Froch

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420713&postcount=27

2. Calzaghe would beat Froch more decisively than Ward, because Calzaghe is a better fighter than Ward.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

3. Froch wont have his moments against Calzaghe.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

So you are saying the contrary I presume.

Salem had his moments against Calzaghe, in a mid range exchange, Salem got the better of Calzaghe.

And you are saying, Froch cant have them kind of moments in a mid range exchange.

I never said this, please prove. I provided my evidence, you should provide your instead of resorting to lies because I have handed you a big schooling.

Again I never said this.

I said, Calzaghe's style with his southpaw stance, will give Froch opportunities to have his moments.

I can also make up lies for you that actually hold water and provide evidence. Matter of fact they probably aint even lies.

You claim, Froch wont win 1 minute of a 36 minute fight with Calzaghe.

You bought Hatton vs Mayweather to cover up the three points I schooled you on.

If you though Hatton had a chance vs mayweather, thats your problem I thought Mayweather would do him. the only thing that suprised me in that fight was Mayweather doing better in the clinch.

Dont chicken out. This is the points you made that are complete bull**** and you know it:-

1. Calzaghe would beat Froch because Ward beat Froch

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420713&postcount=27

2. Calzaghe would beat Froch more decisively than Ward, because Calzaghe is a better fighter than Ward.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

3. Froch wont have his moments against Calzaghe.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35

 

No point chickening out now KO specialist. This is what you claimed.

1.. Calzaghe would beat Froch because Ward beat Froch

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420713&postcount=27

So you based your Calzaghe vs Froch prediction off Ward UD12 Froch.

You said IF, read the red part son.

I schooled you on this topic with one simple pwnage material:-

Mosley > Margarito > Cotto > Mosley

Styles make fights.

I ask you to tell me, what did Ward do against Froch, that Calzaghe can do, if not can do better than Ward.

You know you got owned on this point.

I will give you a brief moment to have a gasp of air, come back and admit you was wrong or dont come back because you know you are wrong. Its up to you.

you ****ed up

 

So to break this down, you don't disagree with what I'm saying. You're even more stupid than I thought, you're a ****ing clown.

First of all, you say it's all about styles, and that you cannot compare Ward's success over Froch, to the success Calzaghe would have over Froch, purely because they have different styles. Then you go on to state that because Hopkins, RJJ, Salem, Reid and Mitchell had success against Calzaghe, so would Froch? atsch You've just embarassed and exposed yourself, that's 'schooling' someone.

You did say that, go look it up, I've already explained this to you.

Is that what I said? For example, Froch won more than 1 minute of the fight against Ward, doesn't mean he had his 'moments', when at any point did you think Carl was in control in that fight? That argument is nonsense.

Once again, when did I say I thought Hatton had a chance against Mayweather? you ****ing gimp. I'm pointing out that there are times, when people think two styles match up on paper, and in practice they're wrong. Here, you're wrong about Calzaghe's style matching up well for Froch, deal with it atsch

You have nothing new to bring to this argument, I've destroyed you left, right and centre and you've nothing left but to twist what I've said, invent things, repeat and contradict yourself. I hope you've learnt something from all this. Thanks for your time :deal

 

Once again, you're just twisting what I said, did I say because Ward and Calzaghe are similar in any way? My point was that Froch got outclassed when he stepped up against Ward. He would get outclassed if he stepped up against Calzaghe, these are better fighters than Pascal and Johnson.

You stated that styles make fights, then compared Froch to Hopkins, RJJ, Salem, Bika and Mitchell, you schooled yourself on that one, admit that you ****ed up.

 

Look at you crying like a ***** because I showed you where you was wrong.

You dumb or something, how can you miss the last 3 pages and think that I agree with all your ****.

I dont agree with your points here

1.. Calzaghe would beat Froch because Ward beat Froch
2. Calzaghe would beat Froch more decisively than Ward, because Calzaghe is a better fighter than Ward.
3. Froch wont have his moments against Calzaghe.

You know these are three points where you and me disagreed. And I schooled you on this topic, however you got Calzaghe's nuts in your mouth so you choose not to accept defeat.

When did I say its all about styles, get Calzaghe's nuts out of your mouth and read what I said:-

You said Froch wont have his moments vs Calzaghe.

I explained stylistically Froch will most likely have moments vs Calzaghe.

Then I explained logically, it only makes sense that since Robin Reid was able to school Calzaghe at times, that since Kabery Salem was able to knock down Calzaghe, it only makes sense that it is logically likely Froch would have his moments.

Logically and stylistically Froch will have his moments, I prove it. But you fail to accept defeat because you have Calzaghe's nuts in your mouth.

SELF PWNAGE atsch

This is what you said:-

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http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420713&postcount=27



You compared them yourself and now you are saying you cant compare the two.

I already gave you the full explaination that stylistically Froch and Calzaghe's styles compliment one another hence giving a exciting fight but now you want to admit it and act like you said it when I already schooled you on the topic.

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First of all this is a hypothetical match up, a could off. Its based on logic and styles so I explained already the styles part of it. The I explained the logic part of it.

If Kabery Salem, can knock Calzaghe down. How can you claim:-

"Froch wont have his moments"

If Kabery Salem can have his moments, surely Froch can. Or you must think that styliscially Kabery Salem was a nightmare for Calzaghe

Take calzaghe's dick outta ur mouth boy.

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Say what? Stop making up lies.

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Exactly now that a lie got fired back at you, you starting to feel the heat.

Ward beat Froch almost a shutout, 118 - 110, 119 - 109, can be a reasonable outcome.

You claimed Calzaghe would beat Froch more decisively than that, so you think Calzaghe would beat Froch like 120 -108 AKA shutout.

WHo has Calzaghe done that to in the Past: Jeff Lacy

Calzaghe couldnt even shut out Kabery Salem and you claiming he would shut out Frochatsch

That is some serious nutthuggery, you suck off Calzaghe more than bailey

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You bought Hatton into this discussion for no reason and now you was made to look the fool for it.

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You say that then go on to answer my following post

Its all good son.
:good