Froch says he has a better legacy then cazaghe

Calzaghe choosing to retire when he just had his biggest wins (on paper) and started to receive respect and fame (P4P #3) doesnt mean he was more past his physical prime than Bernard Hopkins.

Bernard Hopkins, when he was at his physical best Knocked out Glen Johnson back in the late 90's.

Calzaghe's most impressive performance came in 2006 vs Jeff Lacy.

Hopkins just showed he is a class above Calzaghe by carrying on fighting the best available in the LHW division.

Win lose or draw, Hopkins showed he is levels ahead of Calzaghe by taking on young lion Chad Dawson. Calzaghe didnt want Chad Dawson. :deal

 

After just schooling realsoulja again, this time on Calzaghe-Hopkins, it seems that he wants more. That post is laughable, all you do is repeat yourself like a broken record, and completely twist what I say.

No you goon, can you not see that I just stated that styles make fights?

You're getting clowned left, right and centre.

I found it hilarious, how ignorant and ******ed you were coming across to me in this thread, so I looked up your post history. It seems you have a habit of making ******ed assumptions, and completely ignoring points presented to you, I found you have a past history of this

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=370319&page=5[/url]


I've seen you try the same rubbish with Bailey, and you got humiliated there as well.

Considering you called me a Calzaghe fanboy, you post on an alarmingly high number of threads about Calzaghe...

For someone who claims to have an almighty knowledge of boxing and styles, I found one of your great predictions, from realsoulja's crystal ball

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11574453#post11574453[/url]

Hey don't feel bad, you weren't far off... :rofl

Why have you ignored my last two previous posts, and made some silly little 'interview'? Because I've destroyed you, ripped apart the arguments you've presented and recovered to expose you as a ****** brained simpleton.

Thanks for making it so easy

 

Calzaghe was past his physical prime when he fought Hopkins, that's an irrefutable fact.

Calzaghe was in his physical prime at the start of the decade, before his hand problems caused him to change his technique and to an extent, his style.

If you're comparing streaks, you have to take into consideration that Hopkins was coming off two dominating wins against Tarver and Winky Wright, and went on to dominate an undefeated Pavlik, and regain the title from Pascal, no-one has beaten Hopkins at LHW since.

Hopkins showed he is levels ahead of Calzaghe by falling on his back, and getting injured in the second round, causing a NC, where many thought he used it as a way out because he was overmatched on the night?

What we do know, is that when they fought Calzaghe landed more punches against Hopkins than any fighter ever has (including prime Roided RJJ), and recorded the highest scorecard against Hopkins (116-112).

As you would say realsoulja, you 'just got schooled son' :deal

 

Both Calzaghe and Hopkins were past their physical Prime/best.

Hopkins physical best was back in the late 90's when he knocked out Glen Johnson.

Hopkins was an aggressive fighter in his physical prime, but post William Joppy has become alot more defensive since he no longer is in his physical prime.

Calzaghe has always been an aggressive fighter thus showing he wasnt way past his physical prime.

Calzaghe has always been a high volume puncher from day 1. Had he lost his physical edge, which he did, he would have either changed his style or become a coward and run away from the sport. Calzaghe did the latter.

Before Tarver, Hopkins was robbed in close fights against Taylor.

Those Taylor fights showed something, Hopkins has become old.

Hopkins had a choice, either run away from the sport like Calzaghe. Or stay in the game and change his style using his experience and ring intelligence to show he has more to his game.

Hopkins showed he can fight in his old age using experience and ring intelligence.

Calzaghe never showed this, Calzaghe always was a high volume puncher, and when he found out he wont be able to be physically strong for long, Calzaghe went out like a coward compared to Hopkins who remained in the game to fight young lions.

Hopkins chooses to step into the ring with young lions. Calzaghe chooses to sniff coke and dance on TV. :deal

And what we also know is, Hopkins has beaten Calzaghe and got robbed. If you dont agree with that, then agree with this, Hopkins has been closest in defeating Calzaghe (on paper)

RJJ beat Hopkins more decisively than any other fighter.

Regardless, Hopkins asked Calzaghe for a rematch, calzaghe refused and signed out on a RJJ fight. Hopkins wanted a rematch more than Calzaghe did, for a reason.

 

Still the definitive post in this thread :smoke

 

Young pretender and part time toilet cleaner at the Team Elite HQ over in London 'knockout artist' is getting brutally mauled by the aggressive inside powershots of realsoulja, if this doesn't stop soon i'll be forced to report this thread for bullying :-(

 

You said.

Calzaghe would beat Froch, because Ward beat Froch.

This statement of yours goes against styles makes fights.

So that is why I schooled you on the topic, styles make fights.

That prediction was regarding ring size and you can clearly see I had a good insight by stating Ward is the better outside and inside fighter. Even Calzaghe though Froch was the better inside fighter, but Calzaghe was wrong. I happen to get it right by stating Ward is better on the inside.

Regardless, we dont judge the game by the men, we judge the men by the game. Just because I said Froch would knock Ward out, dont mean what I am saying is bull**** with regards to Ward being the better inside and outside fighter.

I think you can see my analysis was right, I chose fighters by my heart coz i am into the sport too much. But with regards to Calzaghe vs Froch, you have been picking Froch to not have his moments.

Not because of :

1. Styles: I already proved stylistically Froch has a better chance vs Calzaghe than he had against Ward

2. Logically: I already shown, if Kabery Salem can have his moments vs Calzaghe so can Froch.

You have been saying Froch wont have his moments because you got Calzaghe's nutsack in ur mouth.

There is no one, including my old foe bailey, that would claim, Froch wont have his moments vs Calzaghe. Failey might claim such, but bailey wont.

Why have you ignored my last two previous posts, and made some silly little 'interview'? Because I've destroyed you, ripped apart the arguments you've presented and recovered to expose you as a ****** brained simpleton.

 

hopkins clearly picked the easy route at the time by turning down a career high payday of $3m to fight calzaghe, in order to pick up just $800,000 to fight hakkar, what part of that are you not understanding?

hopkins had absolutely no idea in 2002 that their paths would cross again 6 years later in a different weight division.




been interesting reading your pissy little posts, so i just had a good check of your posting history and it was quite revealing

- a 450 post history dedicated to posting on joe calzaghe threads :think

- a pissy nature with a clear agenda, the same as his other alter-ego's :think





it reminds me of someone but i can't quite put a name to it :smoke

 

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HOF poster drozzy gives it to realsoulja.

ATG poster Arcane gives it to realsoulja:deal

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=12422842[/url]

Gatekeeper poster Snakefist gives it to realsoulja

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Really and truly it aint even gone to the judges scorecards yet, I already given Knockout Artist a defeat via KO4:deal

 

realsoulja cleaning house again I see...

you think the Calfaggots would've learned their lesson by now...

 

You agree styles make fights, but then why did you claim this:-

Calzaghe would beat Froch, because Ward beat Froch. And Calzaghe is better than Ward.

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If you apply the rule 'Styles make fights' here, your logic is invalid.

That is why I schooled you on style make fights.

No contridiction here, I think you are confusing the two factors, maybe you are confusing the two so you can hide from your humiliation.

I stated:-
Stylistically, Froch has better chance vs Calzaghe than Ward. (You disagreed and I schooled you on range, southpaw vs orthadox, Calzaghe's not being a back foot fighter....and so on)

Logically, Froch would most likely have his moments since Kabery Salem had his moments.

You disgareed and still claimed this:-

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12420998&postcount=35[/url]

So if you cant agree that stylistically Froch wont have his moments vs Calzaghe. Then I have to school you on the logical sense, that is why I bought in Calzaghe's previous fights. In a hypothetical discussion you have to look at both of the fighters resume and who they fought.

Either way, stylistically or logically, you cant deny Froch will have his moments vs Calzaghe :deal

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Show me where is the contridictions? You the one who is back peddling

You claimed Froch wont have is moments.

After you got schooled you retracted, back peddled and bitched out by saying Calzaghe would win something like 118 -110.

You fell back, not me.

I still hold my points, you have fallen back to change your points and also admitted you should have been more clear in the begining. Thats you on ***** street, me still hold my opinion from the begining. You changing lanes without admitting defeat.

I have been bias with Froch, I have said Calzaghe would beat Froch, its you who have been saying:-

Froch wont have his moments.

:deal Another time you admit you was wrong You admit yourself Froch would have his moments.

So what? Froch will have his moments regardless because:-

1. Stylistically
2. Logically

:deal

Again so what, you claimed Froch has no chance and Froch wont have his moments. now you are admitting it yourself that Froch would have his moments.

1. Stylistically
2. Logically

You dont know **** about boxing.

Show me a fighter, where Calzaghe has "danced around" on the backfoot?

Calzaghe is a come forward fighter that would out work is opponent.

Froch can brawl and can box, either way he would have his moments regardless and would have more moments vs Calzaghe than he would vs Ward.

You dont know **** about boxing.

Morales out jabbed southpaw Pacqiuao in their first fight,

The only southpaw you probably know off is Calzaghe

You know what you did here, you just proved that your points made earlier were bull****.

1. Froch doesnt have his moments against Calzaghe, because Froch didnt have his moments vs Ward. atsch
2. Froch dont have his moments vs Calzaghe, because Froch lost to Ward atsch
3. Froch will have his moments, you already accepted defeat on this issue.
4. Calzaghe doesnt automatically beat Froch, just because Froch steps up a level.

Bottom Line.

Froch will have his moments vs Calzaghe.

Stylistically and Logically

 

ATG poster Popkins gives the fight to realsoulja

:good:deal

 

He has to fight his contenders for his title to get to his record 20 defences. what is wrong with Hopkins or Joe Calzaghe doing this?

well I am glad you can read Bernards mind on that one. I cant, so I concede you that point, my psychic friend.
Its great that you are psychically able to read Bernard's mind or one could accuse you of assuming that Bernard had no plans to fight Cal after 2002.

that would be an interesting observation, if half my Cal related posts werent defending Calzaghe. You could conclude I was anti-Vitali, anti-Ali, anti-Froch on your assumption, but one does need to pay attention to words in the posts, I think you'll agree.

 

of course, thats why hopkins entered into negotiations with calzaghe in the 1st place :nut

yep them career high paydays are all wrong for b-hop, he ****ing hates big pay days

yep, a proven, multi-account, troll alter-ego putting a bit of disguise on his identity before displaying his true agenda again and again :deal

quit squealing Hammill :crybaby

you've been exposed as a stinking ***gott yet again


TOO ****ING EASY :smoke

 

so Bernard was interested or he wasnt? you cant have your cake both ways.

by all means keep following that train of thought, its a bonus win for me.