Abraham vs Kessler at catchweight 165lbs.

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  1. pirlo

    pirlo Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler is so limited in the ring, Abraham would knock him out cold.
     
  2. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Not sure I understand your reasoning:think For me I think Kessler has all the tools...the only thing I question right NOW is his mental strength(toughness, confidence, determination)
    So lets assume Kessler IS mentally fine
    How do you see the fight playing out?? Abraham just runs in there KO's his ass and leaves without saying goodbye?? just curious
     
  3. HolgerD

    HolgerD Armscontrol Full Member

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    As I see it, boxing with the style Abraham has shown us so far, it's probably necessary for him to have a few "dead" rounds because he unleashes massive amounts of power in his punches. That's all fine if he eventually KOs his opponents, which he usually does, but dangerous on the score-board if he doesn't. I mean, he risks loosing to a clearly lesser fighter. I would like to see him reduce the number of power punches and increase his aggresiveness.
     
  4. pirlo

    pirlo Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler has no tools, he is very average fighter. The HBO crew flying to Europe and giving tickets to all the ppl on the plane with em were saying that they think kessler vs calzaghe will be the same or even more one-sided performance than fight against Lacy. It is so surprising how many fans believed the hype, believed that Kessler is a really good fighter and can compete with Taylor, Pavlik, Bute or Abraham.

    Fight is as simple as that, Abraham is just as usual taking his spots, waiting for the opportunity, controlling the pace of the fight, showing his very tight and good defence, showing his good combinations and eventually knocking out one-dimensional Kessler.
     
  5. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Abraham is this most one-dimensional champion in boxing at the moment!
     
  6. rendog67

    rendog67 The firestarter Full Member

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    i think kessler wins this one by late k.o or ud
     
  7. pirlo

    pirlo Active Member Full Member

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    Yop, he is nothing like virtuoso Ponce de Leon.
     
  8. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

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    :patsch

    No one can be more limited as a champion as Ponce de Leon...

    With Abraham I see the same problem as with Valero...both are technically sound but have too much confidence in their power (with Abraham looking a bit more intelligent with taking his spots).
    Those errors can only be erased in training and I hope Wegner has noticed them and start to teach Abraham more to box as he did before (The Abraham from the Ikeke fight really has the goods to be undisputed middleweight champion).

    Fighting guys like Ayala can become a routine for a champion, thus lacking the motivation to train hard. Without an aim/challenge one can likely under perform on any given night.

    Coming back to Kessler - Abraham at 165: Abraham by vicious KO - Kessler would be too drained and so weaken his stamina and punching output.
     
  9. Maggs1981

    Maggs1981 New Member Full Member

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    I think Kessler would win U/D possible late stoppage. Would be a tough fight but reckon Kessler would be too strong for Abraham.
     
  10. Littlebob

    Littlebob New Member Full Member

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    If Kessler makes the weight an easy victory
     
  11. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't believe every sh*t you hear in the streets when you're selling dope.
     
  12. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    3 pounds is nothing that would drain a serious fighter who has no trouble making 168. Kessler is leagues above Abraham skill-wise! Easy UD Kessler!
     
  13. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kessler wins it easy, but not because Abraham is so one dimensional but because Kessler is a bit more skilled, a bit faster and a lot bigger. Arthur's pretty good in jabbing, tight defense and accurate punching but he can mix it up and he mixes it up if he wants to... just watch the Miranda fight.

    I agree that he should be more aggressive and mix it up more, but he's not one dimensional.

    It's like calling Winky Wright one-dimensional. You know that's a pretty good dimension if you can make a HOF career with it! :good
     
  14. Tom_Tocca

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    Kessler can barely make 168 (he struggled before his fight vs. JC) - and Abraham just lacks motivation right now.

    Sure Kessler could give him fits and at 168 I see him winning a clear decision but at 165 he will be to weak to stay away from AAs power...
     
  15. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The one dimensional comment, was a witty attempt to answer the remark: "Abraham would easy KO the one dimensional Kessler"!

    To me Kessler is much more of a versatile fighter than Abraham!