Cus D'Amato headgear theory

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Ricky42791, Mar 26, 2012.



  1. Ricky42791

    Ricky42791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cus D'Amato did not like sparring with headgear, he said it gives the fighter a false sense of security. They think they can take more shots than they are able too once the headgear comes off. Im an amateur so even in fights I have a headgear on but the other day I sparred with 16oz gloves without headgear, and it did make me a lot more cautious of shots. I do have a good chin but you have a new respect for punches when you dont have the headgear on. Thoughts?

    P.S. im not looking for a bunch of people to talk down to me for sparring without headgear for fear of my safety I am fully aware of the u.s.a boxing policies and thats not helpful to this post its about the theory of the headgear giving a false sense of security not my mother lecturing me about my health
     
  2. BRICKS

    BRICKS the Pride of the Tribe Full Member

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    if ur an am boxer y would it matter? if your a pro then you can choose to turn ya brain to oatmeal all you want.

    i could see the point for a pro boxer, but an am one. NO
     
  3. Ricky42791

    Ricky42791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Amateurs dont stay amateurs forever, my goal is to ultimatley turn pro...
     
  4. IMONFIRE

    IMONFIRE New Member Full Member

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    Headgear doesnt actually take away trauma from the brain, it only protects from cuts and bruises as far as I know.
     
  5. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    yea ideally speaking you should still be mindful of defense and keep them from connecting on you cleanly.
     
  6. Little_Mac

    Little_Mac Active Member Full Member

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    I hate headgear with a passion.:twisted:

    I sparred with and without it on any given day, and I much preferred not to have it. I never really felt like it protected me better, and only served to make my head a bigger target.

    Plus it was hot and uncomfortable and obscured my vision and got sweat in my eyes, all of which led to me getting hit more. Without it I felt slicker and smaller and more evasive, and really didn't notice much of a difference between getting hit with headgear and getting hit without it. It all felt the same.

    But, ultimately, the other guy is wearing it too, so I guess it's all fair.
     
  7. BRICKS

    BRICKS the Pride of the Tribe Full Member

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    then work on your defense and dont get hit.
     
  8. Ricky42791

    Ricky42791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol wow you know what your right, not getting hit would probably be a good idea. thanks for the valuable insight
     
  9. Ricky42791

    Ricky42791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this
     
  10. markiepoop

    markiepoop Member Full Member

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    i used to hate headgear too, it blocked my vision, got sweat into my eyes, decreased my head movement by about 50% and i really felt uncomfortable in that piece of ****.

    however after i got a pretty deep cut on my right eye ( because i did not use headgear ) i decided to use headgear for every sparring sessions now... no more taking stupid unecessary risks.
     
  11. BRICKS

    BRICKS the Pride of the Tribe Full Member

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    not a prob. :rasta
     
  12. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not only a false sense of security...Tyson never trained with headgear, but after getting a 48 stitch cut in training he began wearing gear that came down to protect the eyebrows. I've always felt that that was the beginning of the end for him, because he now had to stand up straighter to see (because of the headgear) and how you train is how you fight. Once he started standing straight up, he was just a shot-armed short guy.
    Archie Moore didn't like head gear either. He said it kept you from learning how to fight inside, because in sparring you could just push your head in any place but, without it, those same moves would get you cut.
    The biggest reason behind it- head gear during sparring- was to keep guys from getting cut in training because cancelled fights cost money.
     
  13. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Headgear hardly lessens the blow, it's to protect against cuts
     
  14. Varity

    Varity New Member Full Member

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    have some of you guys actually sparred before? of course headgear makes a big difference and its a fact that the good headgears out there are very shock absorbing. theres studies on it. thats why people are required o wear headgear that are approved by the AIBA. its not for cuts (well maybe a little), amateurs rarely clinch. its mainly to make sure that the amateurs and young boxers dont spend 10-15 years in the amateurs taking hard shots to the head and then turn professional. the AIBA is also very careful with when they stop a fight. you dont see any knockouts in the amateurs, the headgear is one of the main reasons why. a knockout in the amateurs is referee stoppage. and the referee steps in immediately, if he feels like you're overmatched with your opponent and the other guy gets 2-3 good shots in and you're wobbly they stop the fight

    the problem with headgears is that you can take a lot more shots when you wear one (more evidence they are shock absorbing), so in the long run its actually bad for your brain.

    also the pro's already know what it feels like getting hit with no headgear on, they dont have to get used to it. so it doesnt make a difference whether they wear headgear in sparring or not when it comes to that. all the pros nowadays wear headgear in sparring unless they spar somebody thats really weak or an amateur maybe