When in boxing history has any fighter topped Oscar's run 1997-2000?

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    This is what made Oscar such a draw ..So what if he didn't win them all he was fighting the best ..You only win all your fights when you don't fight the best !!
     
  2. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I respect losing while trying to fight the best a whole lot more than ducking.
     
  3. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Or how they keep mentioning Reggie Johnson as if he were an ATG.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    It was an impressive run. Few have fought the level of comp DLH has. Love of hate, win or lose, he took just about all the big fights. It's funny, Floyd's always wanted to be Golden Boy. Just wished he chose to be the fighter, not the business man version.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    yup. more respect to guys who lost but fought the best than guys who preserve their zeroes but avoiding some tough competitions.
     
  6. Lowkey

    Lowkey New Member Full Member

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    No matter what I'll always love De la Hoya. He was a true warrior. He always wanted to fight the best. He might have gotten a close decision here and there, but he had some controversial losses as well. To understand what an excellent fighter he was try to think of him as the absolute opposite of Sven Ottke!

    When I saw this thread I immediately thought of Cotto. When he was a superstar in the making he just never had a break or an easy fight. I know that the names pale in comparison to De la Hoya's opponents but Cotto has still had quite a run...

    He has fought a lot of undefeated guys through the years including Kelson Pinto, Ricardo Torres, Paulie Malignaggi and Carlos Quintana. Inbetween those fights he had tough opposition in Randall Bailey, DeMarcus Corley and Oktay Urkal which led to showdowns with Zab Judah, Shane Mosley and Antonio Margarito. Even after being beaten he took on Joshua Clottey as a tough "tune-up" to Pacquiao which is just ridiculous...
     
  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    His level of opposition was very high, and he won almost all of those. Amazing boxer.
     
  8. JunitoJab

    JunitoJab Antagonist Full Member

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    :good
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Joe Louis
    June 25th of 1935 through June 25th of 1938
    17-1, KO 15

    Notable fights during that 3 year stretch:
    W TKO6 Primo Carnera
    W TKO1 King Levinsky
    W KO4 Max Baer
    W TKO4 Paulino Uzcudun
    L KO12 Max Schmeling I
    W KO3 Jack Sharkey
    W KO5 Al Ettore
    W UD10 Bob Pastor I
    W KO8 Jim Braddock
    W UD15 Tommy Farr
    W KO3 Nathan Mann
    W KO1 Max Schmeling II

    -Carnera, Baer, Sharkey, and Schmeling were all former Heavyweight Champions.
    -Braddock was the defending Heavyweight Champion.
    -Entering the Louis fight, Carnera was ranked #2, Schmeling I was #2, Ettore was #9, Farr was #2, and Mann was #3, all per Ring Magazine. Max Baer too had to still be ranked as he was only 3 months removed from losing his title when he fought Louis.
    -Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year in both 1936 and 1938. So, 2 of the 3 years in question, being that all 3 of his fights in '38 were before the June 25th "3 year deadline" in order for it to count. (The 1936 award is a little puzzling, as that is the year which Schmeling KO'd him, he still had a good year but FOTY? Doubt it.)
    -Ring Magazine did not officially name Fight of the Year until 1945, but I have seen listed in a couple different locations that the magazine named Louis vs. Baer the 1935 Fight of the Year, Louis vs. Schmeling I the 1936 Fight of the Year, and Louis vs. Farr the 1937 Fight of the Year. Once again, those are unofficial.

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_Heavyweight--1930s

    I'm not sure any fighter out there has a 36 month stretch this good.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    You should respect them more, but a loss does hinder a fighter when comparing ATG's (extreme circumstances aside). Even having close decisions against guys deemed out of ones' league could hold a bit against them when comparing ATG's. In order to differentiate between them, one must look at everything. Losing to someone usually means that they were better than you on that night.
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    - Sept 73 Ken Norton II

    - Jan 74 Joe Frazier II

    - Oct 74 George Foreman

    - Oct 75 Joe Frazier III

    All wins & the first 3 were back to back :good
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Erik Morales fought.....


    Feb 04 - Jesus Chavez

    Jul 04 - Carlos Hernandez

    Nov 04 - Marco Antonio Barrera

    March 05 - manny pacquiao

    All back to back :bbb
     
  13. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles

    1947 - Lloyd Marshall

    1948 - Archie Moore
    Elmer Ray
    Jimmy Bivins

    1949 - Joey Maxim
    Jersey Joe Walcott

    1950 - Joe Louis

    1951 - Jersey Joe Walcott
    Joey Maxim

    All of these are inducted IBHOFers apart from Elmer Ray who should and will be inducted in the future.

    As well as these Charles sandwiched Joe Matisi, Al Smith, Clarence Jones, Teddy Randolph, Fitzie Fitzpatrick, Sam Baroudi, Erv Sarlin, Walter hafer, Joe Baksi, Johnny Haynes, Gus Lesnovich, Pat Valentino, Freddie Bashore, Nick barone and Lee Oma.

    Stopping 14 of them over all.


    1949 -