Amir Khan Deserves More Respect

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  1. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. ploys

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    at the same time; i don't think khan has said anything quite as bitter & douche-y as what froch said about ward.

    not that i give a **** particularly. he can say what he wants for all i care.
     
  3. knockout artist

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    I don't mean to derail this thread, but you really don't know what you're talking about here, and you shouldn't make these accusations and claims. I don't even want a response to this, I'd rather you just deleted this post.

    The British aren't racist towards Pakastanis, you will find the odd minority who are small minded and bigoted (mainly in the north of England), however if you look at how settled into the UK pakastanis are, the kind of jobs and positions they hold (doctors, lawyers, positions in Government and so on) you'll see that Britain is very multi-cultural.

    I had the Khan - Peterson bout a draw, with the bogus points deduction, it was a strange scorecard with the KD as well, but fact is I thought Khan won (without the bogus points deduction). However, Khan should never have let that become a close fight, and Peterson actually exposed how limited Khan is. His defence is awful, and he has no inside game. He's actually very one dimensional.

    The hype train in the UK about him was annoying (as it is with all young British athletes), and he's been very well matched up to this point. He's never been in with an elite fighter, and he and his fans talk about him as though he is one. Maidana has some power (it's vastly overrated), but is so crude and limited, you'd expect a former olympic silver medalist to be able to deal with him, and Maidana still almost got him out of there.

    One thing about Khan, in the press he does talk a good game, making out that he wants to fight this and that fighter, even if he is very arrogant and self-righteous. I look forward to seeing him in some good fights. Hopefully Khan-Brook can happen, that's a fight that will excite the British fans.
     
  4. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With all that being said, he is a fighter not little girl so he should not cry like a little girl and he will get that respect!!
     
  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    people hate winners. especially young winners.
    people are jealous of winners because they are losers
     
  6. Emeritus

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    First of on ESB there is ALOT of hate in general. However I feel Khan deserves to get criticised.

    Yes he is a good boxer but the hype surrounding him is unwarranted.

    Most boxers coming up want to fight everyone, I do give him credit for wanting the fight with Bradley but I'm not condemning Bradley for not making it either, I understand that he wasn't in a strong position and therefore felt he wouldn't get the maximum from the situation which he was in (I don't even like Bradley)

    He is more popular than Peterson by a long shot, however he is no longer the champion and so to secure that fight he had to give up something, that is obvious. I think its unreasonable for you to ask us to applaud him for doing something he was forced to do. Without offering good money this time round Peterson would have took the belts and walked (most probably to Marquez) Khan is NOT a Mayweather or a Pacquiao he NEEDS those belts.

    Also Khan is basically forced to fight in the states so whether he fought in Vegas or Washington doesn't make that much difference to him as there will never be a big fight in the UK involving a US fighter, so if he wants to further his career he has to fight in the states and therefore it is always an away fight.

    I think his record is OK you have to be objective, how many guys on his resume did he fight during their prime who will go on to do great things?

    Thats the thing about Pacquiao he has wins over Morales and Barrera and JMM you know those guys were champions in their own right and have gone on to win stuff after the loss to Pacquiao which proves that they were quality opposition. I don't think Khan can say that....

    Khan pushed and pushed and pushed to cover up a gaping hole in his game, INSIDE FIGHTING, it is illegal and he has no one to blame but himself he was WARNED several times. The fact that he lost to Peterson shows he isn't what he claimed to be, he has lots to learn still and more importantly the way he has conducted himself has left a bad taste in alot of fans mouth who actually supported him.

    I also don't think his fights are that impressive, he is very nervous and hyper when he fights and doesn't control the fight in a commanding way. He is very predicatable with his 4/5 shot flurries most of which are wasted. Plus he has shown an inability to adjust. To me he is a very good boxer but he lacks the power or the skills or tenacity to call himself an Elite boxer at this stage.

    He deserved to be champ and probably will become champ again (not versus Peterson imo) but he really has a bad attitude, the UK have done nothing but support him since the olympics and whilst ofcourse we know the UK has a racism issue Khan is on the good side and to claim other wise is just plain dumb.
     
  7. PityTheFool

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    I really liked Khan in the beginning.He was a curteous and very humble young man.He was just making a name after 7/7 and I thought he would go on to be an excellent ambassador in attempting to quell the anti-Islam feeling in the UK at the time.Even up to Prescott,despite seeing how limited he was,he still had some likeability.
    Then he went to LA and turned into the PR nuclear bomb he's now known as.
    I like watching him fight,his ethnicity has never been a problem but he's an absolute didaster when it comes to pulling off the "arrogance"
    I accept it's hard to get that right in the UK,we seem to prefer "everyman" athletes with limited ability,and that's a bad thing.
    But every time Khan opens his trap you expect a public relations plane crash.:patsch
     
  8. JohnAnthony

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    I was asked my opinion, and my opinion from growing up amongst white communities in the North of England that ****stani community recieves alot of abuse.

    In more upper class levels of society its completely fine i agree with you and People of ****stani Origin do hold a lot of senior respecte roles.

    But in the lower class areas it's not the same. I was at the Khan Barrera fight. You can youtube the entrances. The stadium had about a 30% muslim or ****stani Audience cheering for Khan. And the Majority of everyone else were Booing him. You can here the boo's as he enters the arena.
    Not everyone, as I was there and cheering on Khan.

    You could argue that its because he's cocky and Arrogent. But so it Froch, and Kel Brook and there not hated
     
  9. cesare-borgia

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    Khan is easy to hate for people, whatever he does he will always be disliked by several people, it was that way when he came out of the olympics, whenhe bacem champion, when he wanted everyone and was ambitious and after his loss as well.
     
  10. knockout artist

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    Yeah I see where you're coming from, but the crowd at a boxing fight isn't representative of the British public as a whole, I still think these people are a minority. I don't think it's right that the rest of the world conclude that the British, are by and large racist towards Pakastanis, considering the efforts made by the Government and public to accomodate them in Britain.

    His arrogance is a factor for me, the guy doesn't carry himself well in front of cameras. Like James Degale, I'm sure he's a decent person if you meet him face to face, but he doesn't know how to handle his profile in the media. He just comes across as being arrogant.

    He is very good at what he does, he has elite handspeed, and is almost unbeatable if you fight his fight in the centre of the ring. However he has no inside game, and his defence is awful, that's not mentioning his chin. His attempts at calling out Mayweather last year were cringeworthy
     
  11. JohnAnthony

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    To comment on a couple of your points. Peterson was ordered an immediate rematch so would he not have lost his belts.

    I dsagree about fighters willing to fight everyone on the way up. Khan is on the level of a Chavez o an Alvarez where he has a big following and generates big income. Yet he is showing them how its done. He's fighting genuine threats every year.

    Your overrated comment? Overrated by who? He's in no ones P4P rankings.
    He's dominated Kotelnik and Judah and Malignaggi like no else.
    He beat Maidana who noone thought he'd dare fight let alone beat.
     
  12. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Yes
     
  13. shaunster101

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    This is it :deal
     
  14. JohnAnthony

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    Where is the evidence that he paid off the cuban. That's ******ed.
     
  15. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Also, Khan is tremendously big headed, dull and arrogant

    I used to really like him but he starts to speak and that hideous Boltonstani accent comes out and rivers of **** start flowing from his mouth and suddenly I want to see him KTFO