better drop that 9 pounds. I doubt Chavez goes near Pavlik if he continues to beat on SMW like this. Chavez is hesitant about getting in with anyone that poses a threat to his 0.
Blah blah blah blah about rehab bs excuse. Sh4t pavlik even admit that he started drinking ever since the first taylor fight lol. All this drinking, rehab is a bs excuse in which i've said from day one that i knew there will be excuses when Martinez beats Pavlik in which he did. I bet if Pavlik lets say beat Martinez in the first fight without any problems, nobody here would be talking about rehab, weighing 190 pounds from the start of training camp and all other bs. I remember jack Loew said in the interview in which it was a few days before the fight that Pavlik had the best camp and is ready to go WITH NO EXCUSES!
Why dont pavlik just stay at 168 pounds? He cant go back down to middleweight anymore in which his body wont let him. Lets say if somehow pavlik went back to 160 pounds and face martinez in a rematch or chavez jr or maybe against pirog, macklin, or barker, if he face either one of those fighters and lose, i already seeing the excuses coming out of pavlik fans once again.
I bet the reason pavlik wants to go back down to middleweight cause he knows he's career would be over if he stays at 168 pounds cause he knows fighters like ward, dirrell, froch, bute would beat his overrated a$$ badly. Pavlik size is a supermiddleweight but he doesnt have the b$lls to fight there if he talking about moving back down to middleweight.
its documented facts! it wasn't an excuse, its the truth! Jack Loew covered Kellys ass, not tell his dirt until after Kelly Fired him jackass!
What happen if lets Pavlik did beat Martinez the first time, would there have been rehab, would there be talk about pavlik was killing himself to make the weight? All of this is bs point blank period. **** jack wouldnt have been fired if pavlik beat martinez in the first fight. You might not be one of pavlik fans that make excuse as to why pavlik lost badly to hopkins but there will many bs excuse from other most pavlik fans with 170 pounds is not pavlik weight and the 110 fever.
Pavlik is about a middle weight he will be fighting super middle weight also dont worry about that. He has some unfinished business at middle weight to take care of first . And that unfinished business is the Marinez who did not even have the decency to rematch Pavlik when Pavlik gave Martinez everything he has at middle weight. Martinez needs to be ktfo for that.
Yeah Pavlik wanted Martinez to fight him at 166 pound catchweight in which thats too high for Martinez. Martinez would have given Pavlik a rematch if Pavlik could still make the weight at 160 pounds but couldnt.
I thought it was 164 which is not much weight not much weight at all. Just enough so Pavlik would not be drained down to his bones. Is it not enough that he was weakened by his vices does he need to be starved down to a skeleton for Sergio to fight him? Kelly did not need to fight Martinez he could of fought someone else. Pavlik gave Martinez a chance and Martinez turned his back on Kelly. If I knew that Martinez was going to be like that I would have rathered Kelly fight someone else.
How did martinez turn his back on pavlik? Cause he wouldnt fight pavlik at 166 or 164 pound catchweight bs in which its too hight for martinez? Martinez said if Pavlik wants the rematch then come to 160 pounds if not then pavlik fight somebody else. It's that simple and easy to understand.
I think if someone gives you a chance to make millions of dollers you should give them a favor in return. Would it have been that hard for Martinez to fight at 164? It don't matter anyway because I think things worked out for the best anyhow. I am glad Martinez did not give Pavlik a rematch now. I think its good Pavlik is out west with Garcia. That maybe would not have happend otherwise.
The first fight was a classic, the second was a close one and very competitive boxing match, and a third one even at this stage in their careers wouldn't be bad. Taylor was more than holding his own vs Froch, AA, and Pavlik before getting caught or gassing out. He's on the same boat as Cotto.