Which pre-1980s fighters, 140lbs or under, would you favor over Floyd Jr?

Saddler would kick his teeth in at 130 pounds.

... probably quite literally. :!:

 

Angot beat Pep by being significantly bigger and spoiling. The tactic wouldn't translate against a similar sized opponent who doesn't have height/reach disadvantages. Stylistically he is similar to Mayweather so it boils down to a pure boxing match

We have to ask when it comes to any match up, what edge does a fighter have? Angott seems to have no edge over Mayweather none I can see and even though the footage of him is sparse we can clearly see his style and abilities

I don't rate Ross's contemporaries that high either Armstrong and Canzi aside and he had his flaws. McClarlin and Garcia don't really inspire me on film. I don't think those 2 have P4P talents that are actually that impressive

That aside I'll reiterate that in any match up a fighter needs an edge, and Ross seems to have no edge here. Less reach/height, technically at best on par, weaker, slower, more hittable.

 

I'm not sure if it's totally correct:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9041915&postcount=8

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4163254&postcount=7

 

Good finds but I was working off this report

A Look At The Career Of Sammy (The Clutch) Angott - The Only Man To Ever Beat A Prime Willie Pep
By Carl Thompson/Eastside Boxing

For many fighters that would have been the end of the road, but Angott wasn’t just any fighter. After a successful operation on his hand and a few months of healing, he began his comeback. His first opponent was the featherweight king, Willie Pep.

The fight was scheduled for the 19th March 1943 at Madison Square Garden. At the time Pep’s record was without equal in the history of boxing; he had partaken in sixty-two bouts and had won every one of them. This, and the fact that there were doubts over the complete recovery of Angott’s right hand, resulted in Pep entering the ring a 2-7 favorite. The fight was a scrappy affair in which Angott displayed his full repertoire of wrestling skills. He mauled, held, and wrestled Pep throughout the fight, even tossing in the occasional headlock for good measure, giving the smaller man virtually no chance to do any actual fighting. He also landed several punches, which was more than Pep was able to do. In the first five rounds of the fight, Sammy made Pep come to him, stinging him with lefts to the head whenever Pep came within punching range. By the second half of the fight Pep’s youth started to show. In the sixth, seventh and eight rounds he managed to force his way inside and despite Angott’s incessant holding managed to land several blows. In the final two rounds of the fight, Sammy regained control and mauled the now weary Pep around the ring throwing just enough punches to take both rounds on the scorecards. By the end of the fight Pep had lost and with it went his unbeaten record. With the victory Angott was named The Ring Magazine’s fighter of the month.

Either way I'd stick with my assessment as Angott being a pure boxer

 

:good even more dominating than RJJ - Toney.

 

After reading through the pages I came to the conclusion that the PRE-1980s was totally unnecessary in this thread.

 

sandy sadler would corner floyd and rough his ass up so bad by the late rounds he'd be exhausted and then get blasted into dreamland.

 

Anyone else give Edwin Rosario a punchers chance?

He was a lot less skilled than Floyd but could box and his power could stun an ox. If he lands solid on Floyd it could be panic stations for Mayweather (that's if he lands).

 

Howard Davis Jr, Esteban DeJesus, and Alexis Arguello.Possibly Hilmer Kenty and Ismael Laguna on the right day.

 

People listing Mosley and oscar.....had no idea they were pre-1980 :think

 

Put Floyd in a time machine back to the ol' days and I'd favour Duran, and Armstrong over him. That's it. MAYBE Saddler.

 

Duran & Armstrong.

 

Willie Pep would out-box floyd

 

I agree Whitaker (& Chavez for that matter) beats him but they are not pre 1980s.

 

I'd favor Duran, Armstrong, Napoles, and maybe Carlos Ortiz. Saddler's a good mention, but not one I'm confident in.

Benitez would be interesting at 140, assuming Wilfred was fully focused and prepared. Buchanan's another who would be very interesting if at his best at 135. Floyd's never dealt with a mover or jabber of that quality.

All in all, there's quite a few who could make things interesting and are more or less 50/50 against him, but only 3 I'd pick with real confidence. Goes up to 5 if we make it all time.