Prime Mike Tyson vs. Vladimir Klitschko and Vitali Klitschko, can he beat both or

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  1. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This has been done to death, ******.
     
  2. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good Tyson beat C and B level fighters. Wlad and Vitali are currently beating C and B level fighters which they've done throughout their respective careers.

    Whenever Tyson fought an A level fighter he lost. Whenever Vitali fought an A level fighter he lost (Lewis not as his best either) both have loses to B level fighters in their primes (Douglas and Byrd) (I won't go on about Wlad as he has C level losses and Tyson should smoke him easily)

    The obvious comparison to make would be that they dominate lesser opposition however when they step up they don't have it their own way, hense why I and many others feel they lose a lot of fantasy fights to the likes of holyfield, Ali etc.

    There are always conflicting arguments about TKO6 and Tyson wasn't 'prime' for the Douglas fight leading to many judging what Vitali and Tyson would do against ATGs to be are based on myth and opinion, which is ok, however I prefer to look at it in a more factualistic way used from previous experience.

    Personally I think Douglas was just too motivated to be defeated that night as he previously lost his mother less than a month before the fight and would
    have beaten any version of Tyson IMO whether he was prime or not. Then after this we saw him struggle to overcome a warrior in Ruddock. Can 2 years really make you out of prime? Yes of course, but not too the extent that some suggest with Tyson. Ruddock was then KOed in two rounds by lennox after both fights which could also diminish Tysons wins as he was the man known for knocking people out inside 2 rounds.

    In Vitali's case the fact that Lewis was fairly overweight and very sluggish. Vitali showed heart and courage, as did Lewis, but couldn't finish his man off, which suggests if he was fighting a younger and fresher version of Lewis, he wouldn't have been able to take him out then either. However his iron chin shows he could have lasted the distance with almost every heavyweight to lace up the gloves.

    These are the main issues I have with Tyson and Vitali when comparing them in a fantasy match match as theyre unproven against top opposition (not nessesarily either of their fault) but based on what with have seen rather than what we think we might of seen I take the likes of Holyfield, Ali, Lewis, Foreman over Tyson and Vitali and in a way although completely different fighters are quite similar when comparing them in fantasy match ups.

    On the case of both fighting each other I can't see Vitali being blown away early due to his granite chin. It would be a war no doubt and I think rounds 8-11 would be the key. If Tyson fades in them rounds and has stamina issues I think Vitali takes him out or sweeps the last 4 as he has excellent conditioning and takes a close UD. If Tyson were to come on strong in them rounds I'd pick him to stop Vitali late. Impossible to predict what could happen but we can put 2 and 2 together and get a vague idea that this fight should be fairly even
     
  3. GrizzyBeard

    GrizzyBeard Guest

    Prime Tyson is overrated. Prime Vitali>>>>>>Douglas, Vitali with his chin should be favorite to beat Tyson. Vladamir would get KOd.
     
  4. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    Tinkerbell Tyson seriously smokes them both, And this is from a notorious Tyson-hater. :rasta

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    Foreman Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
  5. zenek2

    zenek2 Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson is just to small, be might KO Wlad, but bigger posibilty that Wlad would KO with big right.
     
  6. Wasp

    Wasp New Member Full Member

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    I guess you hate Klitschkos more than you hate Tyson. Am I wrong?

    Anyways I really think both Klitschkos would be far too much for Tyson. The problem is Tyson can't handle clinching (Wladimir), can't handle 12 rounds and 1000s hits (Vitali), but the brothers both can handle the smaller swarmers.

    If this fantasy match would be real, and the bookies would offer me 1:1 odds, then I would put all of my money to Vitali or Wladimir. (doesn't matter which is boxing)
     
  7. wladmad

    wladmad Guest

    When is the next black panther meeting ?

    It's a race ting and ting
     
  8. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Wlad is first up, Tyson takes it.
     
  9. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Tyson beats Wlad ,but I would favor prime Vitali to beat Tyson.