The best Dempsey beat versus the best Wills beat

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Apr 8, 2012.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    114,793
    51,817
    Mar 21, 2007
    1 - Jack Sharkey V Sam Langford (1915 Langford, past his prime not yet done)

    2 - Tommy Gibbons V Sam McVea

    3 - Jess Willard V Joe Jeannette

    4 - Bill Brennan v Kid Norfolk

    5 - Fred Fulton V Luis Firpo

    Who you got?
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    82,426
    1,478
    Sep 7, 2008
    Are we talking the Sam of Langford KO14 Wills?

    Jeanette Vs Willard is an interesting battle of jabs. Jeanette, who looked a prototype Jones, and Willard, who looked awful but who was massive compared to Jeanette and had a ramrod jab.
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

    71,995
    28,005
    Feb 15, 2006
     
  4. Ramon Rojo

    Ramon Rojo Active Member Full Member

    624
    23
    Dec 5, 2005
    Harry Wills and his opponents were black and slick. That speaks for Wills.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

    82,092
    22,235
    Sep 15, 2009
    :lol:

    such a naughty thread.
     
  6. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    6,315
    664
    Mar 18, 2005
    I'd put Gene Tunney in the list. :lol:
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

    82,092
    22,235
    Sep 15, 2009
    1 - Sharkey points but he loses by ko in the rematch

    2 - Gibbons points

    3 - Jeanette gets robbed on the cards but outclasses the huge giant with jabs and lateral movement.

    4- tough one to pick. my gut says norfolk though but I have no justification.

    5 - Fulton by ko.

    So out of 6 fights the two lists finish 3-3 :good
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    114,793
    51,817
    Mar 21, 2007
    I'm trying to keep it to dudes they beat.
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

    71,995
    28,005
    Feb 15, 2006
    Norfolk used to handel Brennan in exhibitions.

    Brennan could of course find something new, but Norfolk should be favoured.
     
  10. fastseo39

    fastseo39 web designing delhi,web d Full Member

    22
    1
    Mar 24, 2012
    1 - Jack Sharkey V Sam Langford

    Jack Wins

    2 - Tommy Gibbons V Sam McVea

    Tommy gibbons

    3 - Jess Willard V Joe Jeannette

    Joe

    4 - Bill Brennan v Kid Norfolk

    Bill Brennan

    5 - Fred Fulton V Luis Firpo

    Fred
     
  11. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    6,315
    664
    Mar 18, 2005
    Fair enough. :good


    Dempsey arguably beat better, hungrier, or better-prepared versions of each.

    Especially in the case of Firpo, I think that is undoubtedly true.

    (Two months after the Wills fight, Firpo was similarly shut out by Weinert, who he'd dispatched in less than 2 rounds a month before he faced Dempsey. After the Dempsey fight, it seems Firpo's already-lax attitude to training went further down with his new found riches and mega-celebrity lifestyle. He was 8 - 10 pounds heavier in the Wills and Weinert fights than the Willard and Dempsey fights the previous year.)
     
  12. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    6,315
    664
    Mar 18, 2005
    Judging from available film only, I'd stick my neck out and say Jess Willard looks well capable of beating Joe Jeanette.

    Of course, the films may not do Jeanette justice, and the version Wills beat might have been Ali-esque for all I know ....
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    114,793
    51,817
    Mar 21, 2007
    I think there are a lot of close fights up there. I'd pick Jeanette to beat Willard and i'd pick Langford to back out Sharkey, but the other two fights are toss ups or close to it.

    I'd bet Gibbons could beat McVey but maybe not Jeanette.