Who Do You Rank Higher All-Time, Ali or Armstrong And Why?

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  1. PaulieJ'z

    PaulieJ'z Member Full Member

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    This is interesting because so many have both them flip flopped on their lists.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Armstrong. The triple crown.
     
  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Ali makes the lower half of my top ten. Armstrong is my number two. His best run is astonishing, though he had the ability to weight jump, which is an impressive feat heavies can't ever make. Although, for whatever it's worth, I don't rate Armstrong as the clear, single, best H2H number one of any division, and I consider Ali history's best and most proven H2H heavy. Armstrong's resume is one of few you can rank over Ali's though. That plus the weigh-jumping and Ali doesn't have a chance to flip with Hank on my list, I don't think.
     
  4. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal
    Only difference is that I have Armstrong as number 4 in my list.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    It could go either way, I rank both in my top 3 p4p & both are behind Robinson.
     
  6. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Armstong. Did more in less time.
     
  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both should be a cinch for anyone's pound for pound list. Armstrong's entitled to be rated a bit higher,for reasons others have stated.
     
  8. house1234

    house1234 New Member Full Member

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    I have Ali rank higher because he is the better boxer and tougher to beat Head to head pound for pound.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Henry above but not by many places.

    Being the best in 4 divisions and compiling such an awesome resume as he did is tremendous.

    I don't think ali won a fight after the thriller neither but then again I think hank ducked cocoa kid quite blatantly.

    Not only does henry have a better resume, he achieved more and he looks better on film.
     
  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have Armstrong at 3 (and believe he has a case for 1-3 without much debate)...Ali falls just outside of my top 10 at #11. It has been about 2 years but I don't think I would change to much of picks within the top 15, it is 15+ where things start getting murky.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Armstrong my #2 currently , Ali outside of my top 100 .
     
  12. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Armstrong.
    He was greater than Ali, pound for pound.
     
  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I have Ali over Armstrong based on superior longevity. Im not the biggest Ali fan. More of a Joe Frazier guy but Ali was robbed of 3 years of his prime and still managed to rip off one of the greatest resumes in the history of the sport.

    Hank burned very bright but he also burned out pretty quick.

    The other thing is that Ali was more versatile. He was able to changed his boxin style and adapt to the opponent and to father time.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Apples and oranges, it's a different sport in a way, a bit like comparing Usain Bolt and Kenenisa Bekele.

    However while Ali is most people's Top2 heavyweight, Armstrong wasn't necessarily top 2 at any weight he fought. Plus all this multiple weight bull**** for fighting a man 7lbs heavier and 2 inches taller, heavyweights usually have to overcome those size disparages regularly, it doesn't mean a size difference is easier to overcome because there's only 1 weight class. Not that that applies to Ali so much as he was a SHW of his day
     
  15. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Neither is in Top10. Whatever titles Armstrong won, there are more than 10 people with better combination of h2h ability and resume. And Ali may be between 25 and 50, in that range.