Calzaghe's Curse

i belive they will remember him , in the 60,70s there was very low video coverage where as now there are loads of video archieves of great fights tarver and jones triliogy will be 1 of them, but im not defending joes resume of great boxers im not , im just saying that boxers will be remeberd from there fights no matter who they fought or when! joes a great fighter in my opinon but you dont belive that if calzaghe fights these fighters and retires unbeaten then over a period of time he wont be classed as a great fighter

 

I just wish calzaghe had fought these guys in their prime...i'd give him a hell of shot, but we'll never know

 

:rofl Dang Bhop!! way to take the guys most prized victory and step on it. Definate mind **** there. But Bhop shouldn't forget that he is 43 and not as young as he used to be. I think the only thing he has going in his favor is the fact that Calz fights go to the cards. Meaning bhop probably won't get KTFO, but a TKO due to Calz work is possible.

 

Depends what Calzaghe intends to do from here on in. If he really means this 2 more fights then retire stuff he's been saying then he will have failed to fulfil his 'promise'. Agree with what has been said about him not breaking away like Hatton did, but then Hatton is presently at a weight range where he's been able to carefully pick from a pool of credible opponents in the US to build up his image. Having said that Calzaghe should've forced the issue and fighting the likes of Mitchell and Brewer in the US istead of Cardiff would've made more of an impact. I was at those fights and althought the arena was full it was only in the 5,000 capacity CIA in cardiff so it wouldn't have been like turning down a 50,000 home crowd. But now there are a number of potential big fights to enhance and consolidate a legacy so hopefully this "2 fights tops then I'm retiring undefated" stuff isnt for real

 

I disagree with "Calzaghe won't be remembered as a great fighter" which D_knowsboxing posted.

 

D -- Yes mate, of course we know Bernard isn't what he used to be (although Bernard himself might argue against that), but like I already said, it's not like Calzaghe wasn't pursuing the big names such as Jones and Hopkins. We know Bernard ducked Joe, this is common knowledge, and, according to Warren, Jones also ducked Joe (more than once, I think). It's hard to take away credit from Joe for not fighting the big names when they ran from him. It kinda gives more credit to him, and less to Jones and Hops, if anything!

I hate the way the business is structured. American's have everything their own, egotistal way most of the time and it kinda pisses me off. No disrespect to any USA peeps on the board here, don't take that comment personal. The world doesn't, and shouldn't, revolve solely around America.

 

It's a difficult situation for Joe. Fighters over here make more money under Warren than under any other promoter. Eubank and Benn will tell you the same thing. Warren has been a huge help to Joe when he needed it, and for that he's still very loyal to him. When Joe managed to shake off Mickey Duff, do you know that Joe actually owed Mickey £20,000? Tell me that isn't disgusting situation for a fighter to be in after being an unbeaten world champion in something like 21 fights and never making a single penny out of it. You see how Warren helped Joe out of a shithole here?

Another thing is, I don't exactly understand how the contracts work or what length of time they run for, but getting out of a contract is often an extremely difficult, painful, long drawn-out process. I know this myself having been involved as a musician in the music business and having to walk away from complex contracts and huge advances (advances being the money that you are given to make albums), because at the end of the day, some evil shark wants a big piece of you and you are in danger of making nothing yourself. So, while it may be easy for us to sit on our butts and say "Joe should have ditched Warren", it may not be quite as simple as that, especially when the guy is comfortable and earning a good living already. Let's not forget, Joe is from humble beginnings, too.

Don King wanted Joe to come to him. he might still want him, I don't know, but I'm very glad he avoided any offers.

 

Don't "dare" me to do anything. If you want to get nasty, you need to get out of my face because I ain't getting into a slagging match with nobody. I don't need to try and prove anyone wrong, either. Either discuss this rationally or don't discuss it at all, I don't give a ****.

BTW, you just jumped on me for a post I made to someone else. It wasn't even directed at you.