Past 130, Manny hasnt fought anyone coming off a big win except Marquez

And that he should have fought Cotto at 147 back when he wa still mixing it up with the likes of Barrera and Marquez at super feather??

This is brilliant. Thanks for the amusement. I'm off to bed. Lay off the smoke pipe, mate. Too much isn't good for ya.

 

You can find ANY resume out there and twist **** up to make it look any way you want it to look. Look at Floyd for instance.... He faced DLH at 154 which was his best win but this wasn't anywhere near a prime DLH. DLH had lost to Nard, Shane, TWICE and Tito.....Strum as well if you want to be real.

Then we see Floyd fight Hatton...who looked compeltely terrible agasint a B level Welter in his first crack at the new weight...then he fights Floyd not at Jr WW where he was a champion and a dominant one after beating KT...but Floyd made the smaller man come up in weight knowing that he wasn't any good at 147.

Then we have Shane.....Shane was 37....At 37 he was off for well over a year before Floyd decided to fight him.

Ortiz?:rofl A jr MW who had one fight against Berto and won... All the sudden his loss to Miadana was forgotten by Floyd because he needed a dance partner after Ortiz derailed the Berto pipe dream.

Not that stellar after all now is it?

 

Take The Test!

 

Cotto dominated the guy he beat before losing to PAC....Josh looked good against Cotto whom some felt Josh won. Hatton looked damn good against Floyd and took him 10 rounds before getting the KO only to be completely blasted out by PAC in 2 rounds. DLH white washed Stevie forbes at 151 before dropping down to 147 to fight a 135 Manny who jumped up 2 weight classes. Shane was the only one who didn't look good.... he was fighting a MW in Mora and had a poor showing against Floyd but again... Shane was already kicking "40's" door down by the time Floyd and PAC dominated him.

Floyd fights half as much as PAC and he's in a division where Floyd calls home or at least use to until recently. PAC has beaten ALL the top WW in half the time it took Floyd. Floyd is an opportunist... he finds the right guys... like Victor to pick because he had a OVER hyped up win against Berto and it's smart...but transparent.

 

So beacuse DLH KO'd Ricardo and Shane KO'd Marg you think that turned back the hands of time for them? atsch Don't get me wrong... BOTH were still very good and top players but dont' get it twisted...they were not anywhere near the fighters they were when they faced one another or when DLH lost to Nard or Shane lost to Vernon.

DLH looked good against Floyd....That was a close, tactical fight that Floyd edged against that version of DLH.... PAC completey destroyed DLH.

You boys think a LOSS is the end of the world simply because Floyd is pumping you guys up like UNDEFEATED is the end all be all and it's not. Those who lose and are great, prove it by coming back better. Take Cotto for instance...how about Ray Robinson or Ray leonard...ALI ... We can go on and on.

Hatton got lucky the judges saw his fight at 147 with Callazo for him. Hatton wasn't any good at 147. Which is why he dropped back down to his division where Floyd didn't beat him...PAC did. And PAC took his crown at Jr WW where Floyd took advantage of Ricky having him move up to 147.

Ortiz lost to Marcos months before he got his "career" defining win aganist Berto. It's some funny **** when your career defining win is off of Andre Berto's name.atsch

I face the facts... PAC has done incredible things in this sport...makeing history and beating the odds. He's dominated men that no one said he could conquer and has faced all the best fighters when others wanted to duck them.

 

Who cares....the point is he's done it and so has every one else.

 

I don't care.. didn't care when he faced Zab after losing to Baldo...I didnt' care when DLH faced Nard after losing to Sturm and I didn't care when EM faced Manny after he lost to Raheem. Great fighters lose. it's part of the game.

It's guys like you who over analyze other fighters resumes who are considered better than Floyd's. PAC's resume has depth and substance....he's had a stellar career facing all the best names and since moving up he's faced some really good fighters...All the same fighters Floyd has faced in a fraction of the time.

 

Dude...DLH never faced a man not one but TWO divisions lower than himself. DLH was use to fighting bigger man at that point of his career and most felt DLH was picking on PAC.

DLH didn't kill himself...he's still breathing air and excuses are like ass holes...EVERYONE has at least one. So it's no surprise that AFTERWARDS DLH finally came out after years of staying quiet about being drained. Nacho didn't make excuses for his fighter...he gave PAC his just dues and for good reason... Nacho knew at this stage..PAC was simply the better man.

DLH at 147 in his prime is the absolute best....but Floyd did face a better version of Oscar...But Manny faced a better version of Ricky.:yep ****....even the man who taught Floyd Jr everything he knew was manning Ricky's corner but it just wasn't enough. Not even to make it 10 rounds liek he did with Floyd at FLOYD's division of 147.

Ortiz had a good win very good win against Andre.....nothing more...nothing less. Don't pump it up to be something it's not.

What he's done past 130 has been VERY GOOD. Not great! But considering his trek up the divisions it adds more substance to his accomplishments.

But on the flip side....we can't say Floyd has done anything great since his fight with Chico.... given the fact that PAC has faught at beat almost everyone Floyd has at 147.

 

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