Why was Cotto so much easier for Pacquiao than he was for Mayweather?

If it's "1 pound less" that you trying say its not a big deal then why didnt pac fight cotto at the ww limit? In the rematch pac wanted to fight cotto but wouldnt dare to fight cotto at 151 pounds atleast in which pac demanded to fight cotto at 147 pounds. I mean this thread is stupid. We talking about Pac beating Cotto at 145 pounds in a ww catchweight while Floyd beat Cotto at the junior mw limit. I mean you ppl know that at 145 pounds is 9 pounds less then at 154 pounds? Lmfao. And floyd weigh in at 151 pounds while Cotto weigh in at 154 pounds.

 

how he look?

 

Pac didn't solve Cotto's jab. He just walked through it. Pac is willing to eat shots to land on his opponents. I remember Cotto snapping Manny's head back many times with the jab. I thought Cotto actually did the best in the Manny fight when he reverted to boxing, and using his jab.

So the question for me is actually why Cotto is the first person to be this effective with a jab against Mayweather. I know Cotto has a good stiff jab, but I don't think of it as being especially fast. I suppose Cotto has naturally good timing with his jab, because leading up to the Mosley fight didn't everyone think Mosley was going to destroy Cotto with his speed and power? But then didn't Cotto use the jab to nullify Mosley's speed? I have only seen clips of Cotto/Mosley, and read about it, but that's the gist of what I got from that. So perhaps Cotto is underrated in his ability to use timing to overcome faster opponents who try to box him?

I was thinking about it while watching the Floyd/Cotto fight. It's hard to judge something like this, but Cotto did seem to be a little bit unorthodox and do a good job of using awkward rhythm to time his punches. This was especially apparent in the round where he hit Mayweather with that awkward left hook thrown from a weird angle. He was a bit off balance when he threw it so it didn't do much damage but it did get through Mayweathers defense.

 

Pac attacked and never let Cotto off the hook. It was a total Mismatch!!! Pac stopped Cotto. Cotto bloodied Void's nose and mouth and should have won more rounds than Void's judges gave him. Close fight!

 

I'm not too keen on calling it "walking through".
I would only call it as such if Pac was being his usual self with the mentality of "take some to get some in".
The jab wasn't connecting at all during those times when Pac was countering Cotto like hell with the lead left.
It only started connecting again when Cotto was backpedalling and we all know that Pac is not good at chasing and cutting the ring off.

Pac has underrated counter-punching ability. He was countering JMM pretty impressively (for him) too.
I get what you're saying with how Cotto used the jab effectively against Mosley tho, and he also did the same with Margarito (he was able to back Margarito up with jabs if memory serves, so that means it really has some pop to it, especially since Cotto is a converted orthodox boxer).

My thinking is Mayweather was toying with Cotto a bit especially on the corners, thus the jab penetrating his defense.

 

better weight, better corner. the advice cotto got in the pac fight was pathetic.

 

Alot more credible than the idiots claiming "weight drained"... my ass. Cotto was a lb lighter and looked to be in sensational shape for Pacaquiao.

 

That's pretty much it, the true Boxing fans know.

 

Yet, nobody complained when Cotto asked Margarito for a catchweight of 150 pounds. You explained Cotto didn't want Margarito showing up at 175 on fight night. So it's OK for Cotto to do it, but if Pac does the same exact thing, it's a real big deal for you. 145 (one pound less than what he weighed in against Clottey just 6 months before) would have been an issue if Cotto was drained, of which no indications ever showed he was other than Pac haters saying he was. Why the double standard?

:think

 

But May fought a Marquez COMING UP TWO WEIGHT divisions after COMING UP ONE WEIGHT DIVISIONS and having 2 fights at that division, people are leaving that out when they mention May vs Marquez, and yes I'm well aware Marquez also went up and fought Pac at 144, but he had at least fought another 2 fights at 135 and one at 140 after the first try at 146. That's another 4 fights at 135 or higher than when he went up and fought May, plus he had ALREADY FOUGHT PAC TWO TIMES BEFORE, Marquez had 24 rounds of experience fighting Pac. People should take that into account, size difference and experience at that weight had a lot to do with the outcome of the May vs Marquez fight, not saying Marquez would beat May at 146 now, simply saying May didn't fight the best Marquez possible.(same with Marquez, he didn't fight the best May possible) May vs Marquez at 130 would have been great, many claim May would beat Marquez just as bad, I doubt it, it would be competitive. imo

 

You're not taking into account all the factors.

Add to that, the wear and tear Pac has, after being involved in some vicious wars (not saying Pac is shot), take that into account.

One thing we do know Pac and May won't be fighting the best versions of each other at 147, 2009, to 2011 passed, still I believe the fight will be very competitive, much more than May vs Cotto, I doubt May can win 10-2 or 9-3 like many May fans claim, we will just have to see the fight.

 

:good People need to stop discrediting pacs win against cotto. Cotto said himself that the weight wasn't the issue. Cotto was taken out before the 6th round by punches he didnt see coming, not because it was a catchweight fight.

As others have aluded, pac does well with aggressive fighters which is why in his last few fights his opponents have adopted a defensive approach. Boxers have figured this out now. Tim wil be more defensive than normal agqinst pac no doubt

 

Yeah Pac does the samething but worse then Cotto. Need i remind you that Pac demanded Cotto to fight him again at 147 pounds in which Cotto cant make that weight anymore? Why couldnt Pac fight Cotto at 150 or 151 pounds like Pac did with Margarito? And need i remind that its been the third time Pac has fought in a bs catchweights? And to answer your question no i wouldnt happy if cotto vs margarito rematch happen at 150 pounds. Cotto did look drain vs Pac.

 

Cotto is the perfect stylistic matchup for Pac. Comes forward, left-hand dominant and slower.

Against Mayweather, he matches up a bit better. He fights well on the inside, cuts off the ring well and has a good left hook to the body. All things which can be used against an older, more flat footed Mayweather. If he had better head movement, he would be a hard style for Floyd.

 

Mayweather

Total Punches
179 / 687 ------Measly 26%

Jabs
51 / 305 - 17%----- So much about themyth of a jabber

Power Punches -
128 / 382- 34%----You call those powerpunches???? Can't even scratch cotto



Cotto

TotalPunches
105 / 506

Jabs
30 / 177

Power Punches
75 / 329

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Pacquiao

Total punches
336 / 780 - 43%

Jabs
60 / 220 - 27%


Power Punch
276 / 560 - 49%


Cotto

Total punch
172 / 597 - 29%

Jabs
79 / 297 - 27%

Power Punch
93 / 300 - 31%