Haye is going to RUN THROUGH Chisora!

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  1. ImElvis666

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    That's such a moronic attitude. Three corrupt judges only determine who wins a fight on paper.
     
  2. White Tiger

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    As I said in the other thread - Chisoras best chance to take it late.

    But to lose to Tyson Fury - is not a good sign in your prospects of beating Haye.
     
  3. White Tiger

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    Well the way I always say it............

    Fighter A won the fight.

    but

    Fighter B won the decsion.

    Sometimes two different things entirely concerning the same fight.
     
  4. Legend X

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    Haye's wins at heavyweight have ALL been against old, decrepit, washed-up fighters.
    People talk about Ruiz as if he was still a relevant fighter ! :patsch


    28 year-old Chisora is at least a "live" young contender. He's nothing special at all, but IF Haye blasts him out it will be Haye's best win at HW by far. :deal
     
  5. TFFP

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    I can't see Chisora beating Haye. I see Chisora giving him some degree of trouble, in the sense Mormeck did, the Italian did, so there is precedent for this type of fighter troubling him.

    But he's going to have to walk through a lot of stuff that I'm not sure he'll be capable of. If he is, he'll have a chance. But I don't see it. Sexton stunned him with a right hand, just because he went 12 with an ancient Klitschko who doesn't retain much one punch power doesn't say much for him not being in bother here.
     
  6. Kalasinn

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    G$ora has Granite in his mandible, nobody active can blast him out.

    However, your overall concept is correct.
     
  7. White Tiger

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    Based on what they have shown in their careers - I think Valuev - while hardly the most graceful and skilled heavyweight ever - is a much proven better fighter than Dereck Chrisora.

    Haye has won at a level higher than what it would mean to beat Chrisora.

    I'm not defending Haye by any means - just being realistic.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    No, he doesn't. Sam Sexton visibly stunned him, Helenius troubled him. Both with the right. He can be taken out and theres a good chance he will.
     
  9. Nick Hewer

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    :patsch The Fury fight?

    Chisora didn't even train for that fight.
     
  10. White Tiger

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    In a way this fight is another "money making event" - from Haye - something like the Audely Harrison fight was - its what Hayes career has become these days than taking the hard road of being a serious fighter building a career / legacy.

    Of course - Chirsora - is a more solid opponnet - than Audely Harrison

    But still - - Chrirsora - hardly warrants World Class regard - cos he lasted the distance against Vitali.

    this fight is just happening cos it sells.
     
  11. Legend X

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    Valuev was coming off a year's layoff, and a horrible fight with a 46 year old Holyfield. Valuev was 36, looking like 66 !

    Chisora looked better in his last two fights than Valuev looked against Holyfield. Arguably better than Valuev EVER looked.
     
  12. Legend X

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    You're over-rating Haye's HW achievements compared to Chisora's.

    Valuev was a paper champion. Barrett and Harrison were tomato cans, both almost 40 years old. Ruiz was washed-up.

    Chisora should have a "W" on his record against Helenius, who was world rated prospect and contender.
    A young 'live' heavyweight, something Haye has NEVER beaten.

    People still buy into the Haye myth, and I don't see why.
     
  13. Kalasinn

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    The G$ora who beat Helenius would beat Shot Holyfield, whereas Valuev couldn't even beat Beyond Shot Holy.
     
  14. White Tiger

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    Holyfield - thats the key word.

    Regardless of him being 46 years old - and faded = one of the best heavyweights - maybe like - ever - all time - certainly at Crusier.

    Holyfield - seen as shot - in World Class terms - its all relative to what you judge them against.

    Throw Holyfield in with a British level fighter - and even now - he would make mince meat of them.

    Valuev - was a greater win for Haye than Chrisroa would be.
     
  15. Kalasinn

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    Holyfield merely "seen as shot"... no he was a Beyond Shot Ancient Zombie.