Who is greater Marciano or Johnson?

I think it has been determined that Johnson was the superior pincher.

 

And so my vote counts, Johnson is greater in the big picture, in what he achieved, how he caused the sport to advance technically and socially. He was a groundbreaker. Rocky was just an excellent fighter and great athlete.

Head to head, I will take Rocky in probably one of the most interesting fantasy fights one could devise.

 

Watch This:

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Don't let the poor film quality cloud your judgement. Johnson had a bag of tricks up his sleeve and was a master of feints.

 

Yeah. a few videos on this. Some People think of him like he was some dumb brute but it's not true. He wasn't perfect and he could be timed at moments, thrown off balance, etc...but he wasn't awful by no means.

However, it doesn't help that there are so many crazy fans who like to build up the legend that he liked to be hit, that he took extreme amount of punishment like nobody else...taking flush shot after flush shot just to land one of his own.


Tyson talks about it:

Starts at 7:18 with Marciano.

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Here is something to read on the matter:



Interview with Rocky Marciano

by John Summers, published in the Mandrake column of the Sunday Telegraph, 7 November 1965 under the headline ‘Gentle as a Rock’



People say to me, “Rocky, you made me scream watching you fight, you looked like you’re going to get killed the way you keep coming forward taking all those punches on the chin…”’ The Rock shakes his head amusedly. ‘But I never did.’ He tucks the bristling chin into the protective shoulders. ‘I always had my chin down here. I never used to take any punches on the chin. Nobody can take punches on the chin.
‘Rocky, baby…’
‘Only time I left myself wide open was when they put wintergreen in my water bucket to try and stop me winning the world championship and my eyes stung so I had to lift my chin just to see and Walcott nailed me on the chin and nearly knocked me out.’
‘Crooks! Wintergreen they put in his water bucket!’
‘Talk about divine justice. The officials handling me in that fight, awhile after they all dropped dead.’ The Rock massaged his chin quickly.



http://www.john-summers.net/marciano.html

 

I rate Jack higher than Marciano...I'll admit it.