Juan M. Marquez Analyzes Cotto-Mayweather, Canelo-Mosley in the Golpe A Golpe Ring

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    If you want to follow along, the video can be found here:

    http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/videohub/video/clipDeportes?id=1522197&cc=3888


    Enjoy.

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    Announcer Dude: Here we are in the Golpe A Golpe Ring, ready to demonstrate what we saw happen last Saturday with Juan Manuel Marquez. Well Juan, it’s very difficult to bring what Mayweather does into practice, since it’s a very complicated style, but what did Cotto attempt to do to damage Floyd?

    JMM: What Cotto attempted to do was get inside the guard of Floyd Mayweather. When he was able to do it (crouches)s, he’d throw 1,2,3,4,5,6, even 7 (throws inside combination), where the last two would land on Mayweather; very good combinations starting downstairs and ending up top, throwing a right hook (to the body), a left hook (to the body), a right hand (up top), a left hook, and an uppercut, being able to land the last two punches. What was important was his throwing of consecutive combinations. Mayweather’s a fighter whose not used to have his opponents throwing combinations of 3, 4 shots, and what Cotto did here was throw up to 7, where the last two would land very well.

    Announcer Dude: Why did Miguel Cotto have more success with his offensive than what Juan Manuel Marquez had with his offensive?

    JMM: What Cotto did on the offensive was jab well. He kept the jab on Mayweather (jabs and corners announcer dude onto the ropes), and also landed it well, he made him bleed. He jabbed at distance and with speed, and one even snapped Mayweather’s head back, turning his head to say hi to the crowd. And several times he connected the jab, and I think that was very important-

    Announcer Dude: Yours couldn’t get there.

    JMM: I couldn’t get there, because of the distance. If he stretches his hand out here (jabs with announcer dude, whose reach is superior), what I wanted to do was move (mimics bending waist to get inside), and he’d move back and take my punching angle away. I think that was a very important point. And another is that Floyd Mayweather risked more than what we thought. He risked more than when he fought with me.

    Announcer Dude: (inaudible question)

    JMM: He wanted to knock me out. He says he tried to knock me out in the sixth or seventh round, but there were times he’d try, and I’d counterpunch him and connect my shots on him. Not with the same potency, because the difference in weight was extreme.

    Announcer Dude: Right. Now, Floyd Mayweather’s offense, how did he do damage to Cotto?

    JMM: He did a lot of damage to Cotto. Well, Cotto was already in his guard, in short (shells up in crouch against announcer dude); it’s harder to get there in the first place. But once he was there, he stood right in front of Mayweather, and ate all of the right uppercuts Mayweather threw, and didn’t move his waist. That was the very big mistake Miguel Cotto committed. What they always tell you in the gym is to bend your waist and always be moving (moves side to side).

    Announcer Dude: He was too open as a target.

    JMM: Exactly, to avoid receiving the uppercuts. There was also a round where he threw 6 straight times, the same jab, and right hand. He threw that same combination some 6, 7 times.

    Announcer Dude: Even though he had his guard up, it would land (mimics high guard).

    JMM: Yes, he’d throw it through the side of the guard. Because Cotto had his hands up like this (raises hands); he’d cover up and from there couldn’t see the right hook. It would come through from behind (throws overhand right through guard). He couldn’t even try to do this (blocks left hand side of face with forearm), because he could change it to a right uppercut. There are a lot of risks there.

    Announcer Dude: The length of the arms, the potency, the speed, how difficult Mayweather is.

    JMM: Yes, yes.

    Announcer Dude: Now, let’s go over the fight of Saul Canelo Alvarez. El Canelo, we said, offered interested things. His combinations were good, Juan; 1-2-uppercut, or sometimes he’d change it to finish downstairs (throws combination); and from nowhere, the left hook would surface (throws left hook).

    JMM: Yes, that hook that he has down well. He’ll throw the jab, throw the jab, and suddenly change it to a hook (throws combination), with that feint he throws really well.

    Announcer Dude: And if you open yourself up too much, it comes down the middle.

    JMM: Exactly, an open target like Mosley was. He’d come in like this (hands wide apart), and what would come out well from Canelo was the 1-2-uppercut, and he’d always connect them. And another thing he did, as we’ve been noticing very repetitive combinations, was the jab, right uppercut, and left to the liver. That, that he does very well, but he repeats it too much. He needs to make a change…

    Announcer Dude: They start to learn it…

    JMM: They start to learn it. When they know the right uppercut and left hook (downstairs) is coming, they’re going to cover up, and then throw the counter afterwards (announcer dude throws left hook after JMM finishes). He needs to go forming different combinations.

    Announce Dude: What can come out after that left hook to the body, what would you recommend Canelo throw?

    JMM: That combination can be: (right) uppercut, hook to the liver, and come up with an uppercut with that same hand, or also, right uppercut, left to the body, and a right hand from there. Or it can also be, right uppercut, left to the body, right hand, left hook, and close with a right. They’re very good combinations that can do damage to any fighter.

    Announcer Dude: With the potency Canelo has, landing one of those…!

    JMM: He can also throw a combination that goes better with a feint. Right uppercut, crouch down like you’re going to throw downstairs, and come up with a right…I mean a left hook, sorry (throws combination.)

    Announcer Dude: That’s alright Juan, you tried (laughs).

    JMM: Thanks, I appreciate it.

    Announcer Dude: The Golpe A Golpe Ring.
     
  2. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice,Juan does a great job commentating,would have helped a little more though had Miguel went back and forth,some of those uppercuts would have missed..
     
  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    In close he did well to smother or slip a few of them, but at range it was more difficult. I agree that more movement would have done him well.
     
  4. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Thanks for this.

    Is Juan saying that Floyd fought more aggressive against Cotto or against him?
     
  5. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Juan can retire knowing he has places to go after hanging it up.

    I don't understand Spanish, but he sure seems to get his point across when reading the transcrip.
     
  6. Diamond Eye

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    This is a great service you do for ESB.

    JMM has great insight in the game.
     
  7. verpeiler

    verpeiler New Member Full Member

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    Don't know about his motivation skills, but his insight of the sport should make him one hell of a trainer.
     
  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I think he would make a great fight analyst for HBO.
     
  9. Filthy McNasty

    Filthy McNasty Punchy Old Pug Full Member

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    I second that, thank you OP.
     
  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Cotto(e)
     
  11. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    That got me thinking, if I'm not mistaken Juan is an accountancy grad.

    Maybe he's the right guy for Shaeffer and Arum to consult how the purses should go for Pac and May.
     
  12. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for posting. I love JMM. Shame there's nothing like this in the States. On Lampley's new show the other night Roy Jones did a little segment on headbutts. I'd like to see more of that.
     
  13. gurby22

    gurby22 Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks again for another golpe a golpe video :good. He brought up a good point about more body movement on the inside, I think he should have spent more energy on that than bouncing around outside.
     
  14. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    If Juan could have been as fluent as Oscar, Juan could have made a good service to boxing. Kellerman's Faceoff, then Juan's Pre and Pst fight prediction.

    Either way, Golpe a golpe made more fans get a better understanding on each fighter's stroingpoints and weakpoints through Juan.

    Thanks Bogo, as usual.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Cotto would have avoided eating uppercuts had he been willing to scoot back. Had he been willing to scoot back, the rounds he lost would not have seemed as competitive, because they were competitive mostly on the principle of Cotto's pressuring.

    Great video, thanks for posting.

    Marquez is very, very smart...