What prime version of any fighter would you consider unbeatable?

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    If I had to pick a winner between Robinson & Leonard at WW I`d pick Robinson actually due to the footage I have seen & my knowledge of his career, but in full fight footage I think the Leonard of Duran 2 was the best I`ve seen..... also, I actually considered picking the Leonard of Hearns 1 but I think the version of SRL that beat Duran was a bit quicker, more or less the same fighter but had a tad quicker hands & swifter foot movement.

    I don`t know if this was down to the opponent at the time or because Ray went up to 154 vs Kalule before coming back down to fight Hearns at 147, maybe he was naturally bulking up, whatever the reason, I think he looked his physical best vs Duran.

    MW Robinson that stopped JLM beats any MW I`ve ever seen fight a full fight, Hagler, Monzon & Hopkins included.

    :good
     
  2. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agreed
     
  3. El-Mafioso

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    Mike Tyson in the Spinks Fight
    Finito Lopez....
    LW Roberto Duran
     
  4. Foreman Hook

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    Foreman Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke​
     
  5. El-Mafioso

    El-Mafioso Member Full Member

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    Man Cleverland was PAAAAAAAAAAST HIS PRIMEEEEE he gets knock out twice vs liston get shoot by a cop.....
     
  6. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think anyone is unbeatable. Winning comes down to ability, style, size (length), will, luck..
    The one guy I fell most comfortable going with is Ricardo Lopez at straw weight.

    If I had to pick who I think would do best in a tournment (Others with real chance)
    201+: R. Bowe. Good skills, Size and Chin (L. Lewis, W. Klitchko, V. Klitchko, M Ali, M. Tyson, J. Louis)
    200: J. Louis. Size, Power (J. Dempsy, J. Johnson)
    190: R. Maricaino. I just don't see the rock losing at 190 (E. Charles, E. Holyfield)
    175: R. Jones. Combo of speed and power (E.Charles)
    168: R. Jones see above (E. Charles, J Toney)
    160: J. Toney. At 160 & 168 Toney was a young fit boxer with both offensive and defensive skills and a great boxing IQ that still serves him to this day. (R. Robinson, C. Monzoon, , R. Jones. M. Hagler, B. Hopkins, R. Leonard)
    154: T. Hearns. Hearns is the text book tall fighter. His chin which I think gets too much cridictism is his only weakness. (M. McCauulam, T. Noris, R Leonard)
    147: T Hearns. See above. (Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, F. Mayweather)
    140: F. Mayweather. Mayweather is at his best from 130-140. While he did not have a long reign at 140. His Skills, speed and size carry him to the top head to head at this weight. (B. Leonard, P. Whitaker, T. Bradley) Yes I know that between Mayweather, Leonard and Whitaker they had a total of 2 championship fights at this weight. The division is experancing it's best era right now. It has mostly been what the crusirerweight division has been to heavyweight.
    135: F. Mayweather. There are more talanted lightweights. B. Leonard, P. Whitaker. Hoewever the distance is very small. Mayweather is the longer fighter. He's taller and has longer arms. In the end I think that caries the day. (B. Leonard, P. Whitaker)
     
  9. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Wilfredo Gomez before the Sanchez fight.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    WHATTTT? Sugar Ray Leonard beat a prime tommy hearns at 147. You can't rate hearns over Leonard here
     
  11. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    It's done, repeatedly. The idea being Hearns and Leonard would split if they fought x amount of even times. That, and Hearns wins over 12 rounds.
     
  12. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you don't half come out with some baffling opinions on here, these two stuck out the most,
     
  13. ThinBlack

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    Hector Camacho at 130.
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    What makes you say that?
     
  15. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    It's interesting, you know.

    A lot of people feel Duran's win in Montreal is arguably the greatest in the history of the sport, and many consider Thomas Hearns to be the ultimate fighting machine at 147 and second only to SRR, if that.

    What does this say about Ray Leonard?