Ricky hatton could have been alot better.

Froch is talented too. Froch has a great chin and is exceptionally intelligent and deceptive. He looks like a brawler but is actually a boxer puncher. He sticks his chin out and baits people but then counters extremely well.

 

I agree that Froch is talented, but I don't think he is naturally as athletic as Ricky.

Froch = Domestic level talents (World Class Chin), maximized to full potential by countless hours in the gym

Hatton = World class talent (Domestic level skill), pissed away by eating and drinking

Not to knock British domestic talent, its probably the best domestic scene imo

edit, Froch has possible HOF talents... Ricky had possible ATG talents...

 

He could have been better if he didn't have a glass jaw..

 

Hatton was one of the best 'Swarmers' of any weight division of the last decade... how can you say he wasn't a swarmer??? Go watch every fight pre Collazo... He was a swarming beast.
All Hatton could ever be due to his Hobits arms was a swarmer... he didn't stand a chance of being effective as a boxer with his reach.

Hatton did box as a kid.

Hattons biggest problem was his inability to stay in shape between fights and that after bulldozing Tszyu he tried to walk through everyone. He stopped moving his head, feinting, jabbing... post Tszyu he just rushed in, put his head on your chest and went to work. Prime Hatton (pre Tszyu) would feint, double the jab, change the angle, go to the body, to the head, change the angle. Never kept his head still for a moment on the way in etc... just wish you guys over the other side of the Atlantic got to see more of Hatton at his best cos you guys would have loved his style

TS needs to learn a bit about the subject of discussion he is starting.

 

Hatton could've been great. Too bad he didn't have the kind of discipline between fights that guys like Hopkins and Calzaghe had and didn't test himself earlier. A world class trainer would've helped, too.

Hatton's downfall actually has a parallel in the US recently- Kelly Pavlik. Kelly tested himself sooner, but loyalty to a trainer who couldn't maximize what he could do and poor discipline between fights cost him once he got to the top. Both guys had world class performances but got undone at the very top level where shortcomings like that make themselves glaringly apparent. Both of them fell in love with what got them to the top and didn't show enough desire to keep improving once they got there.

 

IMO, he did not have the skill to do that against World Class opponents. Instead he had to hold on as a defense... Too bad he did not have a better trainer

 

Earlier fights, youtube.

 

hattons lack of dedication between fights let him down. his ballooning lead to his physical gifts leaving him over time, and this lead to him being unable to effectively carry out his style of fighting as well as it could have been (had he not loved the pub so much).

hes a likable guy, and had such great natural talent. he underachieved, imo:deal

 

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

However i think anyone that has boxed can see that hattons change in style was nothing to do with his opponents. Just that he stopped doing fundamental things that made him so effective. He also clearly started declining in terms of stamina too. Early years Hatton was utterly relentless for 12 rounds and wouldn't stop throwing punches all through the fight

 

Funny you mentioned that... Because when i've sparred boxers that have had much more competition experience/talent than me... I've had to change my style completly....

Headmovement has disappeared against an opponent that is much faster than I expected and can time my movement. Its much more efficient to use a high guard or footwork

Counters and combinations turn into circling my opponent and throwing fast jobs in order not to get dropped


Don't correlate everyone who has boxed into you're opinions :good

 

You stopped moving your head against better opposition???? Odd

Hatton only had one style. He worked his way in close and then would creat angles to open up shots to the body.... that never changed. What changed was the way he worked himself inside and he clearly hadn't changed for the better so how do you figure it was a planned style change for the level of his opponent? He was walking in with his head static and not jabbing his way in to be in a position to let his hands go when he was in range. So effectively nullifying his own attacks and getting hit a lot more too... I can't see how that be described as a planned style change to suit the level of opposition... that's just backward.

Next you'll tell me that post Cus Tyson was changing his style to suit his opponents too...

 

Gahhhh hatton did not have a glass jaw!!! If he did then he would never have taken those shots from tszyu. He also took a lot of punishment from may weather before falling, and that was when his physical tools were on the slide. Only after that did his chin become a liability. And I agree that he could have done a lot more with his talent and that his diet caused him to go downhill early, don't think he would ever have been ATG though

 

Hatton didn't exactly do too badly considering his pretty limited skillset...

Mayweather knocked him out but he still gave him one of the tougher fights of his career. That was also after dominating 140 for a couple of years. Not bad going, really.

Still, he's an idiot for wasting his physical prime fighting guys he was clearly better than and then abusing the **** out of his body, so that by the time he was at world level his ability was already waning.

His earlier fights earned him a reputation as an exciting fighter but how many good fights did he actually have after beating Tszyu?

 

Yes I did stop moving my head sparring against better Opp.... Because I kept getting hit and it wasn't working, One of the first things my trainer taught me was, If its not working STOP doing it....


Hatton charging in with his head down straight forward = a frustrated fighter trying to get in.

Hatton holding when his opponent tries to punch = a fighter who wants to avoid an inside fight

Hatton didn't do these things because he wanted to, it was the only way for him to be successful against top level comp.. And it actually worked for a while.....

Question, why did you use the "Those that have boxed would......"? Did you really think it would help prove you're point?

 

If anyone can find it go and watch the Hatton v Oliveira fight.... that shows Hatton at his best.... he was frightening that night.... absolute brutal display. Granted the opposition was nothign to write home about but the movement, speed, accuracy, power and relentless pressure was a sight to see.