In all seriousness I dont do the greb fantasy match up thing. Its stupid to do it. But your only as good as who you beat, an he has the best record ever. An its funny you said before you made a top ten of "fighters you watched". The amount of film you seen of langford was enough for him to make your top ten? If your going by careers you seen on film of fighters that makes no sense as there isnt much langford film to judge his whole career with.
Actually that was my top 10 list. I stopped arguing because i realized i was wrong in my assumption that you had to have watched a fighter.
it's amazing the amount of "big ups" Greb got from other fighters. You rarely hear other fighters talk about their hall of fame contemporaries with such class.
my father saw greb fight 6 times as well as plenty of the old time greats.he said harry is as advertized.a windmill and one of the 3 greatest i ever saw....because theres no footage of him you still can get a feel of how great he was by1.comments made by his peers2.there is plenty of footage of the great fighters harry fought and beat to at least give you a reasonable opinion..after all theres no footiage of alexander the great or julius ceasor so we cant say they were not great military leaders.
...yes.gene tunney the first 2 fights mickey walker jimmy slatterly and a unknown fighter in a syracuse ny fight.the other one he didnt say.
I have to agree with Devon on this one. You guys are 100% correct up until this point. I Rank both my ATG and P4P list as a weighted measure of BOTH resume and skill. For my pound for pound I consider what would happen if the fighters weighted the same weight ad******g the other variables (power, speed, . . . etc) and use their record only as a gauge of their abilities. So in other words I personally think about the fighters skill more than their record. ATG I put more weight than skill but I do not discount skill as much as I do resume when I think of P4P (I also take into consideration the generation . . . how would a fight deal with all of the conditions that the fighters in the past had to deal with?) Because of my system I do not rank Greb as high as others (just outside of the top five). Anyone with boxing knowledge would never challenge the thought of his greatness.
Good job.....he was a damn good fighter from what I've read....I also looked up any of his fights and could not find.